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Episode 66 · 3 months ago

Vance Joy

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While Australia often brings to mind pristine beaches, kangaroos, and cool accents, several well-known musicians come from the land down under. From the Bee Gees to The Kid LAROI, Australian artists have significantly impacted the music industry. Vance Joy is one Aussie that has thrown another hit on the barbie.

In this episode, Vance Joy spouts off on his time as a footballer, his secret musical focus group, how he feels meeting other famous people, Spanish wine, recording an album over Zoom, and more!

He's in Australian with arguably one of the most distinct voices to emerge from down under. Taking a perfect blend of Indie, folk and pop, he tows the line between being the soundtrack of the summer and the soundtrack for your next road trip. My name is Eric Zachary and this is the spot podcast where famous people spot off about more than what they're famous for. Today that's Van's joy. It's joy. What is officer? How are you man? I'm good. Eric. How are you doing? Man? I'm good. I'm just I've just endured probably the most technical difficulties I ever have while doing a zoom interview, which I'm just gonna go. I've in there. I've been listening through the album. I heard it first when it came out and then when I found out we got the interview. Obviously I'm going back listening to the gun and again and the gun, but I when that first listen in June when it came out, my first ad was Catalonia. That was my track. That was the I'm gonna make an adventure vlog or video to this song. Hey, cat was just getting in and know when you stumble down those streets and that just know you'll be, and the whole album kind of has that thing. Going off of what you were saying. You know, you're not always on type of TIK TIK trends. You've gotta be aware now you're not only creating music to be a body of music, but people literally score their lives to these songs now on instagram reels and tiktok yeah, yeah, that song, that song. I'm glad that you gravitated towards that because, yeah, I really loved that song and it was one that had an interesting kind of creation. I was in a I wrote it with my friend Dave, but again over zoom, but at that time I was in a hotel doing like two weeks of quarantine and I sang the vocals in the wardrobe in the class of hotel room because I had the best soundproofing and it's acts. Yeah, I don't know why, I just felt too, too exposed in my room. It's nothing else there, but I just went in there and I sang and those vocals were the ones that stayed on the song the whole way through. So, but that song is upbeat and I think it's...

...it's the one as well that a few friends have kind of mentioned they really like and it's funny because even even up until like choosing songs, I was like, I don't know, like I know it's upbeating fun, but just you know, sometimes you just have no, no idea, and you're like is this good? I don't know, like and then it's often those ones that people are like that that's my favorite song. So the estions off of that, then what is your real quick run me through your proofing test, like when you have a song, when you lay down those initials, stems and you're like, okay, who am I going to send this to? How do I test this for myself before like it goes to the labels with the A and R or anything like that? Where are you kind of cross verifying with yourself? Who is that person and what is that process? Yeah, Um, I mean, you know, you listen to your own instinct a little bit. You know quite a lot, but I show it to show it to my family, show it to my sister, my mom, my dad, my girlfriend. I showed it to my to my mate Robbie, who's he's he's the one I go to if I'm worried if the songs too poppy. Or if I'm like is this be or is it? He's just like, you know, two on the nose. Um, he's always like no, it's good, you know, like he's he he reashows, he's quite reassowing, but he's also just like uh, you know, you know, he gives me he gives me pretty straight feedback, which is good. And then my drama Ed. He's also good and he's he's pretty stoked about songs. So again, if I'm like it is two poppies, is two on the nose, he will be like this is sick dude, and I think it's it's good to have those people that kind of Um, kind of quiet the critic, because I have that critic in my head. It's like, you know, whatever wanted to is Godie Vance Joy, real name James Gabriel Kio, was born in Melbourne, Australia. Though he is now known for his music, especially his massive hit riptide, Vance almost never made music a career, believe it or not, and he was actually playing Australian football at an extremely high level growing up. Do you draw are any and...

...this is this might be a reach here, but I'm gonna I'm gonna try to intertwine this. Do you drive any of that, that ability to dial in, the ability to quite the nose noise around you, from your football days, from the Cuburg Club, I mean when people are screaming at you and you're in the moment of the match. I think I wish that. I wish that. Yeah, I feel like now I'm like, maybe I could do so many skills when I was playing football, because at that time I think I um, I think playing sport is great and I think there are moments when you're playing where you're kind of in the zone and Um, but when I think about my footballing days, I almost wish that I could do them again or something will come with some of the maturity that I feel like I've got now. I feel like it would get me through and keep me in games and you know, maybe you start the game badly, but it doesn't really matter. It's just how you finish and you can it's always the next contest. You can really kind of resurrect the game. So Um, no, I think at that time I was just Um, you know, play football and I didn't think I had all the mental skills that that that good players have. But I feel like mabe music. It always felt more natural and Um my instincts were already kind of there, I think, a bit more, a bit more developed. What was the same? You know, youth is wasted on the twenties or the teens, and now we're in our thirties. Were like, if only, if only you could tell that person our version. Thankfully, Vance never thought of himself the highest caliber footie player and shifted his focus to music. It wasn't long before he signed a five album deal with Atlantic records. Though he loves writing with friends and collaborating with other artists. That proved to be a bit of a challenge during the covid nineteen pandemic. Vance, however, was able to write an incredible album, his latest, in our own sweet time with friends through the power of zoom. I heard this entire album right in our sweet time. You wrote over Zoom. Yes, yes, okay, frustrating. What's that? Did it compare? Are The last twenty minutes of my life? Well,...

...no, I feel like I'm looking at you. You Look you look amazing, and the lighting it looks like it looks like you're basically working with cinematic quality cameras on your ends and I feel like I'm kind of all, kind of very d I wine and pretty rough. So it was I don't know, writing on zoom was it was fun and it was kind of just totally borne out of necessity. I wanted to work with some of my, you know, my friends who I work with and write with. So it kind of had to happen and surprisingly it wasn't too difficult and it was kind of good, because no one wants to sit on zoom for like eight hours. So it's like, you know, when you do a song running session, sometimes you spend like five or six hours with each other, which is also which is nice, but zoom it's kind of like you're writing the song in two hours and then you have it out. You guys, I got a three clock. I'm sorry, I gotta go. I gotta Balance Reality. You have to eat. Yeah, yeah, it was kind of Nice. It was kind of like, okay, I'm gonna go and make a coffee. You go do your thing, and it was it was kind of funny, like you just leave the zoom on and go and like make a coffee, go get a snack and then you kind of come back. So, Um, I liked it. And I guess it was. Now I think back to it and I have a bit of Um, nostalgia or just it's just it was a nice period of time and just the odd zoom session writing a song, and especially because, you know, there was not much else to do. So it was a good distraction. Though he loves the writing process and spending time in the studio adjusting and changing things. Vance does admit that sometimes the best discovery for a song comes, unfortunately, after the project has already been published. Do you? I've always often thought about this because, as a creator myself, not a musician but a creator, once you put a project out, it's out right, it's it belongs to the people, belongs to the fans, anyone that wants to enjoy it. Is there any song or any specific part of a song you're like, Oh, now that I played this live, or now, then, this has been up for a minute, I wish I would have done this differently? Or do you just you let it lay. It is what it is and you're good with it. Um, I think at the moment, like, sorry, Tim say, conditioning off, Um, it's hot here in Spain. Then...

...it's like to leave it legit heatwave. But the you know, what I do is I've learned all the songs live and as I'm playing them for the live show, you kind of start to crack a few more codes about like what sounds the best, maybe harmony ideas, some some stuff that you probably you know, you just didn't have the opportunity to think of in the in the studio, and so that's when you kind of have that kind of Fomo you get which could have put that you also exercise that freedom, I imagine, live too. Then you get to change it up and have a little more of a live version. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, so the songs grow live. That's and sometimes, when I've had the opportunity to play them live for ages, you end up when you go into the studio, you kind of know everything that every instrument is doing, like this is the drum b this is what the base does. It's kind of which is nice. You do you're not gonna out very quickly, but yeah, it's nice being in the studio and being like okay, let's find out what the drums could do, and that's it's like difficult, but it's fun and it's very like satisfying when you you figure out the right recipe for the productions. You got a chance to switch it up. I mean like rip tide. You could have like a pop punk version of it now if you wanted to. You know, it's been long enough. I know, I know. Actually it's it's funny some songs like, I mean, especially ript you played it. It's probably the first song we started playing live and it's Um, it's every in every set. So now I swear she is tested for the screen plas this thing to Michelle Parker that you've ever seen. You gotta try and like pump some new lives. You gotta Keep it interesting for the audience and for yourself too, right, yeah, yeah, I don't want to start like you know, like I mean some artists they'll do a completely different version where I still want to give people like the thing in that song which is like recognizably the song. But you do, you have to keep entertaining for them...

...and also if you need. Let's say, Vance Joy has had quite a lot of success since his first album released, in life, on tour, playing shows, seen the world. It's all great, but there's a few key experiences that stick out for him. They go far beyond the play counts, views and business side of the industry. I want to know because I'm sure you've been asked this a thousand times. So I'm not going to ask this. But you know, people say who do you want to collaborate? What? What's your I made a moment like what's that epitome? I want to know what you've been able to do now with with a very successful, impressive record behind you. Um, is there anyone that has asked you to play a wedding or you got to do like a cool private event and you just got to have that moment, like taking the views out of it, taking the streams out of it, the success of the music. It was just cool for you. Um, it's cool. Like yeah, there was. Sometimes people asked me like who you know? Have you met any of your friend was asking me the other day kind of on the same page. It was like, Um, have you met some of your idols, or have you? It wasn't even have you met a famous person? who was kind of like have you met someone who's music you know, you you really love and respected, and you had that encounter. And I've met a few of those people. Um, and I had one. I've had two special ones, like and they were both pretty random. I was I was I was at it's like a kind of a festival back in the day and Weezer was playing and at that stage I was a fan of Weezer, but I probably like dive much deeper into their music in the last four or five years and just love, love their you know, love their music, songwritting and just just strong characters, such a deep kind of I don't know, and uniqueness to their music. Anyway, my rap manager was like, rivers wants to say hello and I was like, I went OK, yeah, I...

...let's do it. Let's do it, and US was there and he's like hey, man, I like your music and like that song is a good song, and I was like thank you so much, and I was a bit star Struck, but it was I've always been on the other end of that. I've always been the one who's kind of like approaching yeah, feeling nervous to approach someone, but that was really special. And then one time was at a restaurant and my idol for a long time was see um, you know, huge pop star, Singer, songwriter, and she was at a restaurant with my friend and randomly they came over and say hello. I didn't even know they were there, and then all of a sudden I'm like just having a laugh with her and it was like kind of the perfect moment because I've been so inspired by her and I didn't even have them chance to like ruin it by being nervous or anything. It just kind of happened and then they were off and I was like, Oh, I think I made an okay impression there. I don't know if she knows who I was, but I knew, but we're gonna pretend that she did. And it was. It was a cool moment, man. That's they love hearing that, that genuine authenticity of just chances that you get too compliment and be complimented by people that you respect. It's it's always cool. Van's joy currently is residing in Spain and, yes, in case you were curious, he's a pretty good tour guide. Held on. How are you going? So we're in Poplin on a rooftop. The Sun is out, which is perfect. Um, yeah, and I've got some friends here. Well, I came here in at the start, just before a tour we did opening up for pink, and I was here for two days and then I, Um, yeah, I went on a date with the lovely girl and we got along really well. and Are you feeling we'll wrap on this. I know our time is running short, but you've been spending quite a few years in Spain, uh, and you put out the in our sweet time sessions. Um, which one of I thought? So I was filmed on a rooftop of a restaurant that has a really cool backstory in Spain. Wait, walk me through...

...just kind of your quick sips, your quick pointers for anyone that may get the opportunity to do experience as an amazing country. Yeah, I have some friends who came last week and they're coming back next week and I've kind of been a little bit on hosting mode. So, Um, if they come to Barcelona, there's there's Um, the beaches are pretty good. They're they're not like, as I would say, it's something from an Australian so I mean it's high standard, the pristine in Australia, but there's a different kind of fun, kind of wildness to the beach here. It's like very busy and there's hard it's kind of hard to find some real estate to put your tail down. But Um, I would. I would take them to a couple of restaurants. There's, Um, there's a street called enric Granados, which is just like a few hundred meters away, which has like lots of beautiful restaurants on it. There's a place called La Plata, which is like this old restaurant in the Gothic quarter. The serve like three dishes, like a tomato salad, sausage and these little fried fish. Then they serve you wine in this like glass, kind of like spout. It's got a little spe so literally, over the weekend I got the chance to do this. I went to a Spanish restaurant and and you have to like and they pull it further from your mouth. It's it's wild, it's wine. Yeah, it's sorry. That was just very cool moment that I was able to relate to that continue. You know exactly. You know exactly what I'm talking about. It's so fun. It's like you have to it's all on the wrist and you get get the get, the Nice Hark, but it's a fun thing, I think. But now we gotta bring this down. They tell you it's all on the wrist, so it's it looks like a tea cattle almost, and it has it's clear and has a really long spout and the whole point is that you're able to enjoy the wine. And they pull it further and further away from your mouth and then they give you the chance to do it and they say, Oh, you can do that, you just gotta flip it fast. It ends up all of your face the first time. There's no way it doesn't. There's no chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my God. It's so funny watching your friends like, especially before they get the neck. It's just like yeah, it's something that's not going to be or that will be hard to stain. So Um, I would take people that it and then caught a kiss as well. Two hours...

...away, beautiful old beach place, beach town, where I think it was Salvador Dolly said his name, Dolly. Yeah, the painter, he lived, he went Nan. Was inspired this, Huh, coast, a coastal trip. That's cool. It's cool to hear you talking about being inspired by people like Weezer or CEO or, you know, Dolly. At this point, when I know that there's people. People would be an understatement. There's there's a massive fan base that's inspired by what you're doing and what you're putting out. So it's it's really cool. I love the record, man, I love the live sessions that you've been putting out and I can't wait for the tour. In our own sweet time out now, Vance Joy, can I call you James? Of course. Of course, James James. Thank you so much for taking the time and I hope that we get the chance to to talk in person soon, because you seem like a cool dude and I wanted for this conversation. Let's do it. Vance joy is a true artist in every sense of the word. Whether it's his time spent in studio, on stage, hosting friends or just living in sayingly awesome life, you could be sure that he's keeping those mental notes to turn those moments into memories through his gift of music. It's no secret there's a balance to be found between life and work, and Vince joy seems to have found it. But I don't know when we'll be here again. Body, show me every sad you show me every side. Show me every side. Are You.

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