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The Chainsmokers

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This week on Spout, we welcome The Chainsmokers (and their dog!). Drew and Alex spout off on creating their new album, the NFL, the influence of their friends on their music, their fallback plan if they don’t do music forever, and their ventures into filmmaking and finance.

The boys also discuss nostalgia for the past, emo heaven, and diving back into their teenage years. Don’t miss the return of The Chainsmokers and the start of their new era on Spout.

In the S, disco music introduced a new sound of the world by incorporating synthesized beats, utilizing drum machines and electronic instruments to night clubs around the US and Europe. The genre continue to grow in popularity and evolved throughout the S, where it gained mainstream radio success with hits like one thousand nine hundred and eighty fours take on me by Aha. Daft Punk, inspired by the disco sounds of the previous two decades, found huge success in the S and helped pave the way for house and electronic music around the world. And the early saught David Ghetta, who would go on to become one of the most successful Dj's of all time. By the two thousand and tens, the world was captivated by numerous genres of electronic music. Names like dead mouse, SKRILLEX, Steve Aoki and the late of vichy helped lead a worldwide movements of Edim and another duo we're right up there with the most recognizable names are the chain smokers, Aka drew taggart and Alex Paul Show. The chain smokers began in two thousand and twelve after drew and Alex, both Dj's, were introduced by manager Adam Albert. After a few remixes and collabs, their real breakthrough moment was when they dropped their unforgettable songs Selfie in December two thousand and thirteen. First, let me take a self a two thousand and fifteen rose its from their EP bok made it to the top ten of the billboard charts, and their two thousand and sixteen track, don't let me down, featuring Daya, went on to win a grammy. Just a few months later, they teamed up with Halsey for the song closer. This was the first time drew showcased his own senior abilities. It hit the number one spot on charts around the world and they even performed it at the two thousand and sixteen MTVVMA's student just found before. Men Sho too much, and that's an issue. Okay, their debut album, memories do not open this debut at number one in two thousand and seventeen and had hits like something just like this, featuring cold play. To try and quickly recap, being sane, next few years for the guys, they locked in a vegas residency, released their second studio album called sick boy in two thousand and eighteen and launched a film and TV production company called kick the habit. They were listed as the highest paid Dj's by Forbes magazine in two thousand and nineteen. That same year they dropped their third studio album, World War Joy, and in two thousand and twenty they launched a venture capital called Mantis. But in February two thousand and twenty, the duo announced they'd be taking a well deserved hiatus from music, and nearly two years later, in January two thousand and twenty two, they returned to social media to announce their upcoming fourth album and released their new song high on January twenty eight.

For stepping away from music just as a global pandemic shut down the world and coming back right as things are getting back to normal, the timing could not be better and I know so many people, including myself, are absolutely thrilled. This is the spout podcast. We're famous people spout off about more than what they're famous for. I'm Nick Major and my guest today are the chain smokers. Only say, let me put my food away. I got a big bowl of peas here and that's I think I saw that an awful you guys don't like peas or something. What are I mean? That's absolutely crazy. Seek off every day. I like the stat peas, but like peas, big peas like that. They just like they're just dominate every dish and they kind of taste rotten. You know, MMM, I'M NOT gonna lie, I'm not the biggest fan, but I thought this would be funny and I regret it. So I mean, yeah, not worth the joke. I don't Whoa boys are not worth it. So let's actually scrap that part and just dive in. So, dudes, it's so good to be chatting. I'm so stoked that you guys are back, as my mouth tastes like peas now. But Um, how are you guys doing? It's been a big time for you. New Track is out. You guys are finally back and your proper form, because I was a little confused early on saw these two other handsome boys or bag baby pretending to be you. But it seems that you are finally back. You're here full force. So what is up? You know, basically just getting back after it. It's been a pretty crazy, you know, year. Writing this out of our two years writing this album and you know, it's funny, like it's amazing to be back, like it was so hard, like holding on to all this music and just kind of like sitting in the shadows waiting to, you know, get back out there and it's awesome to, you know, see our fans reacting the way we are and you know, we're really excited about all the things we have to come. I will say like there's a little bit of a learning curve. Like social media has really gone to a different place since we left, even like that physically the apps themselves of like where the post button is? Oh yeah, that's so. I don't want to sound like some boomer or something, but like, you know, you don't use instagram for like two years and then you like jump back on. You're like all right, I'M gonna throw up my post and you're like where is the Postbuton? Oh No, and even even since then, tick tock it was like not even an existing APP when you guys a couple years back took a break because I fairly we were look crushing it on Tick Tock. What before we left, like it was Super Fun and then like but now there's like so many different features, like to get, you know, like to use it properly. You see all these amazing creators like really harnessing all the power of the APP and you're just like how the hell did this guy do this thing? It's ridiculous. And then they all hours. I know they do like within the phone with all the APP and I don't understand it. So so props to them. But I see you guys, you have been picking up the tick Tock game a bit. At least. You guys have, like to point, two million followers on there or something. So, so not too bad. But yeah, not bad. But first start. Yeah, I got a good start. One thing that I thought was cool was Charlie pouth and he has really jumped onto the tick tock world and he's used it...

...as a really cool avenue to kind of show as he's coming out with new songs and stuff. When dead mouse, I don't know if you saw the video where you like when he made the vault and he was live streaming on twitch and someone submitted the track to it. Some guy on twitter says he did vocals for this track already. Should I check them out? Mother, and then he saw it and was like Oh wow, hold on a second, this is incredible. Let's use this in the song. Do you guys think that, Tick Tock being such a music platform now and away where people do do wet videos with their own verses and songs, if someone ever did that to one of your tracks, if you just put a beat up there, could you ever see yourself as being like, hold on a second, this might be something here? Yeah, I mean we're always open to the collaboration. I think that's like the crazy cool part of the Internet. I mean like that that kid we reposted recently is, you know, made something really awesome. We just happened to have someone send it to us, if you like it, tag down, let him go, and we were like this is great remix. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's go. I'll call this guy up and get this, like get him the stems and stuff, and I think that's you know, you know, I think like more often than not you're probably not getting those breakthrough moments. But like, but I can't like when you got to pay attention for it and when it happens, like why not? I mean I think billy, to have that connectivity is really cool and you know, listen to your fans and the feedback and people are giving you, and you know that's what's cool about everything these days. Yeah, and you guys, I think your last proper tour was back in two thousand and nineteen and then you were planning to take some downtime anyway, which was well deserved, because I felt like every day there was a new chain smoker's track coming out and I can only imagine like just how much nonstop work you guys were probably doing. And it seems like two thousand and nineteen and twenty one was the first time where you guys got a chance to have a break and actually put time and do something fresh, with something new. So what was that break like for you guys, for the writing process, being able to hop over to Hawaii with some friends and just take some time for yourselves? So it's great. I mean we started, yeah, we started writing the album and like the first two weeks of January two thousand and twenty, so that was before the pandemic, and you know that was a kind of like set the foundation for our entire album. And then you yeah, we have like two years to kind of build off of that and go back and Redo things, and you know just or some of my dogs being a little willsten today. Oh good, I got my dog back here somewhere where a dog friendly space. Good, good, good. It's just got emotional attachment issues, all right, but I'm right here anyway. So that was like the foundation. And and then it was great to have so much time to really like, you know, depend down. It was not a great thing for for anybody, but, you know, to...

...like I think it did force us to like work on the album longer than we probably would have. I think we would have put it out a little bit sooner and I don't think it would have been as good if we you know, just the way things lined up, I think really like worked in our favor. That's awesome. And the first truck you guys dropped was high, which has an insane music video. The video was so dope for it, and you guys got to perform at the SOFI stadium, which I think. I know nothing about sports. I'm terrible sports, but I'm pretty sure that was the game that got the rams into the Super Bowl, if I'm not missaying him like sit. Oh, thank God. Okay, cool son, not sports talks. That's the most that I know. Is You guys played at that which I was at so far a couple weeks ago for a college game. Incredible Stadium, like Seventyzero people when you guys were there. What was it like being able to play something new and just get up on stage? It was great. I mean it like honestly. First of all, like you don't really we played the some stadiums. We definitely played like prouds that size, but when they're in the stadium format it's a very different feeling and like usually it shows you have like fans close to the stage, kind of have like, you know what I mean, like a connection to them, at least the ones like sitting on the field or whatever, and this is just like you're just kind of plopped right in the middle of this. I know you guys were right there. And then the end it's just the whole field. Yeah, like like if you could see the stage up close, like it was huge. It was like, you know, eighty five feet long or something. But like when you we saw like photos from our friends that were like up in the box, it looked like like a little like miniature, a little miniature that, and you know it. But like you know, we had like only four or five days of pull off what we did. So I think it turned out great. But, you know, it was awesome to play high like we live in La and we've been gone for, you know, two years, and that kind of have that be like, I don't want to call it like our coming back party, but like have the opportunity to play at such a pivotal game for the hometown front of all of our friends. You know, with the new song, it was like a really cool moment and like, I know Juw feel the same way, but we like we're surprisingly relaxed about the whole thing. Like when you got up there, it was like really fun and kind of like a bummer that we only had six minutes. Like he got it, got going and then you're just like wait, that's it, like you're just starting to get your sweat on, it was over before you knew it. It's a it's a nice way to ease back in before the longer sets, which I'm sure are not far away from now. And Hi, it was the the first song you guys chose to put out, the first song in two years. Only say he's got a shame why this track did in Sonically, sound wise, is it what people can look forward to, which I loved. By the way, I love your music because lyrically it can always be sent somewhat like serious, emotionally relatable stuff, but followed by music that you just want to move around to. And I loved hi because the guitar at the beginning. I'm a total like pop punk kid and like an alternative rock emo kid at heart, and that guitar at the start was so reminiscent of just all that stuff to me. So far, so good. So...

I was like, Oh, yes, this is a good start, but why this track to be the first one the world heard? And two years from you guys working on the songs on the album for, you know, two years, and this was one of the last songs that we made, and I think we wanted to make this songs like vary in your face. It feels like there's all these like elements, correction elements that we had a lot of fun putting in. has this alternative vibe, the pop punk vibe. It has like like some trap drums that has a dance break, and the songs like very fast paced and you know, we played all of these songs for all of our friends for you know this since they've been we made them and you started like get a consensus over a while. Like I feel like this one is like the best, you know, connective tissue to the rest of the album, and so we kind of like what our homies decide. I saw you guys did a bit of a quick twitter q and a not too long ago if people had some general questions about it and drew it sounds like you're singing on every track on the album. Correct. Yeah, I will be. I've always really loved your voice, but hearing it fresh after two years, it definitely sounds like you're always growing more into your ability to just find your comfort zone and regards to who you are as a vocalist. And what did this passed two years and taking on all these tracks allow you to kind of do in regards to that? Yeah, absolutely, I mean you know that. I mean, like I never had a lot of time to Evan. I kind of like became, I guess, a singer or on on the on the fly. Closer was the first song I ever sang on. I'm student, just found before I met you during too much and that's an issue, but I'm okay. I just kind of went from there, but never really stopped to kind of discover especially like as a producer, and I like to cut my own vocals as well. And, you know, I finally had the time to just experiment with a lot of different like techniques and plugins that I like to use that made my voice sound different and change the way that I had to sing. I'm you know, I sing a lot softer now, which I think really helped me, and these are like, you know, they're kind of like novice realizations that I came to later in my career and I don't know, I don't like my voice does sound very different on this album, but it sounds almost like me, I think, which is which is really exciting. So I'm so for people to hear. You know that that kind of like new character per se. And in the past two years, it's not like you guys just haven't done anything. You've also been kind of exploring to the venture capital world. You've got Mantis, you've got kick the habit, and I think that it's so awesome that you guys are looking to help other people, that you that you believe in, that you see cool potential. And so what is Mantis up to? Right now. And what do you guys hoping to be doing? Moving forward with it more and more. Yeah, it's really exciting and you know, we were really fortunate because it was a kind of an idea we had prior to the pandemic happening and you know, we started probably like thinking about on it for like a year before because it up to huge hundertaking and...

...you know, you're managing other people's money who you respect immensely, and it really got to you know, take it very, very seriously. But we just, you know, we're so obsessed with the idea of investing into people, you know amazing people, and using whatever resources we have at our disposals kind of help them achieve their goals. So, you know, for us we're lucky. We have too great partners in Jeff and Milan who are partners with us in Mantis, and you know, we're continuing to invest into, you know, really interesting spaces, you know, machine learning, Ai Technology, web three, Crypto, you know some social, social consumer stuff. But it's really we find it really inspiring to like kind of align with these founders that have these like huge, you know ideas to disrupt kind of the world in different ways. Some of it's like climate tax and of bits like you can our fusion stuff, and you know, some of it's obviously a little bit further out and and in more challenging than other things, but it's amazing to be involved with them and we find it really inspiring for our own careers and music, to kind of like work along these, beside these people and watch them, you know, manifest their dreams and you know, we've been really fortunate to have the career we've had and it's awesome to be able to pay it forward to the you know, this next generation of incredible you know inventors essentially, and we just find it really great and, you know, I think that we're fortunate to be in a position to be able to do this and it also like is really nice balance between the music stuff, which we, you know, do basically during the night, and then the daytime we're like these like business this guy's in some respects. So it's been cool. And then hopefully, like if drew and I look absolutely terrible in other pants when we're like in our S and s, you know what I mean, and known has any interest in seeing that, we'll be able to, you know, fall back on this a little bit more now. I think you guys are going to rock the leather pants for the rest of time. I saw you guys, I think, back in two thousand and seventeen. You guys are like we're a special unannounced guest at the emo night anniversary show that they had. Were actually developing. I don't know like how much I can say about this, but developing a film around emo night. Yeah, it's so. That got announced in two thousand and twenty one, I think, because I know the guys who put that on really well, TJ and Morgan, and I remember when that got announced and I know I haven't heard much about it since then. So I don't know if stuff's just going on behind the scenes. I didn't know if anything was. As in the word teen film business is the most the most challenging business we've ever been a part of. You know, like I, but I watched like a terrible TV show. I still have respect for it, simply for the front warding lots into it. Yeah, yeah, I'm just like, Hey, you've got this made, congrats to you. You know, it's just, you know, it's a very challenging business. A Lot, lots and lots of layers and cooks in the kitchen and things that need to get approved and, you know, ultimate I feel like we have something really special. So I'm very optimistic about this and I think it would be a terrific, you know, horrific film the shine light on, not just from the music standpoint, for just from the you know writer that we amazing writer we have. But but yeah, these things, you know, when you see like a movie come out, it's like been worked on for like ten years and it's like, yeah, I read very slow, arduous process. Did you guys follow...

...the when we were young fest announcement? That's like the email festival in Vegas right. Yeah, it's one of like my chemical romance and like Pale. I mean that's lineup is insane, you know, and it's like a it's like a emo. It's like are young, are six second roll youmo heaving dream of a classic festival. I'm like so curious. I'm always curious how like festivals like workout billing and stuff. Like, obviously, like my chemical romance, paramore, like bands like that, like we all know they're like the pinnacle of the space, but like there's a lot of other great bands in there. I'm like, you know, like you kind of like get reflected on. He's like, Oh, so this is my place and like Emo rock history. Yeah, yeah, like yet look card like I had some Bangers, like I was, you know, I should get more notoriety in this, but it's so cool and I think like kind of cure rated festivals like this, you know, a really interesting and it's nice because like it. You know, I think we all like have this yearning for nostalgia and the past, and certainly that's like a big theme in our music and it's cool to have like an opportunity to kind of dive back into your teenage years for, you know, an evening with all your friends, and I'm sure these guys often still rip, so it's going to be awesome. Oh Yeah, and I think that's exactly why stuff like Emo nites been able to be popular for so long. Is that nostalgic thing. And I did warped tour for a number of years and like that was just the exact same type of vibe. So I'm stoked and I wasn't sure if it was anything you guys were following or not. Any any sort of release for other songs, for the album entirely. I'm sure that you do, but I know a lot of people are probably hoping like a summer release. Thatd be awesome, great time for I'm guessing hopefully you guys will be able to be playing shows by then. If you're asking about the the day for the album, it's kind of like a moving date. But I mean it's done, I can tell you that much, and we're really happy with it and we you know, we want to get it out as quickly as possible and have you know, fans have more to like nibble on than just like a single or two or three, so to Mo we talk you about yeah, I'd be great, I mean and hope, I mean I really hope that this summer is like kind of the summer that really feels normal again. I feel like it will. So it would be would be great to have it up by then. We got a lot of surprises on the way. Like there's a lot of things you can get done in two years and you know, I think what we're really excited about is showing our fans the depth that we went to for them to get them really awesome, really awesome summer. And you're musically from us. So hopefully we can start getting really aggressive with it in the next few months. That's great and it sounds like this is the work that you guys are most proud of. It's going to be the fourth album from you guys, and is what are you guys most excited about? This album, about this new era of chain smokers for, because people have been waiting and eager and excited themselves. I think that were like just having we had so much fun making all the songs on this album. They're, they feel, like, very changed smokers, but we, I feel like the like production wise especially, they're in like such a fun new place and I were like really excited to keep building on that world. And we just like started doing just like having fun, like making stuff like just for our fans that...

...we just put out, like to remixes, like super low key, that we just like emails to our fans and we didn't even post them on soundcloud or anywhere, and it was just kind of like you guys can repost these or they're just for you, and just kind of having fun off the cuff and, you know, just working you know, remixing artists at like we just our fans of this just been really fun and I think there's a it's just like we're having like more fun with our music. It feels more playful than ever before and our interaction with our fans feels more playful and we just want to build with build on that and and, you know, keep doing what we love whenever it feels right. It seems like it was a great opportunity for you guys to take more time than ever before to finally just get a chance to relax, but also put time into a piece of work where I don't know if it was rushed before. I don't know what the process was like when you guys were constantly putting out music, but do you see yourselves getting back onto that track of consistently putting out stuff, or has been able to sit back and put more time into something given you maybe a new approach for writing in the future? Yeah, I think it will be like a mix of both. I think we definitely benefited. I mean, I mean I'm glad that you like the music video. That was like the first time that we've had a music video that we really were proud of that, because we've spent time talking to the directors involving the script and we really like felt the benefit of slowing down presenting like a full package. And you know, we have the time that we know that that takes time to do now and you know, but I don't think we want to like go away for another two years after this album comes out and then come back with something else. I think we want to definitely be present and putting out stuff like more constantly. But the video was awesome and kid studio killed it with like just the everything in that video looked like ridiculously amazing. So props to that. That was such a great way to, I guess, fly back into the just into the world, and a big, big congrats on that and I can't wait to see what you guys have coming up before long. Hopefully tours will be happening, new music will be happening, but I'm sure it just feels good to have a new song out there and to be back and to see the response from people on yeah, absolutely, and they were thrill it was like, you know, we were like, you know, shadow of our form ourselves in terms of, you know, what we're used have been used for the last decade basically. So you know, this is a music and you know, sharing that experience with our fans is literally our number one passion and we're just really excited about what this year. You know what we have in store. So hopefully things keep heading in an optimistic direction and you know, before we know it, everything will be back to the world we previously knew on some level. MMM, absolutely, but until then I hope that you guys stay well. I really appreciate you chatting. I was looking forward to this. I'm so stoked on the new music. I'm glad that you guys have been well and keeping busy and productive with all the different finshers and all the different music that you've been up to in the past two years. And I guess I'll get back to my my bowl of peas. So thank you, guys. GOT FOR HMM, I don't. I think I just made myself not like P's as much. So whatever, but good luck with everything is yeah, I'm you. Take it easy and I look forward...

...to seeing you guys when you're out in la putting on some shows. Thanks brother, for you. Thanks your brother. Take take it easy, guys. To see it, to see more of Nick Majors Conversation with the chain smokers, search spout podcast on IG Twitter, tick tock, or it's spout podcastcom the spout podcast is presented by Alpha media and created by Phil Becker. Spout.

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