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Episode 73 · 2 weeks ago

Macklemore

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In 2013, an unlikely rapper catapulted to fame by popping tags while wearing an oversized fur coat, convincing millions of fans worldwide to go to the “Thrift Shop.” Macklemore continued his success by churning out several hits (including a pride anthem), winning a controversial Grammy award, getting married, and becoming a father.

Nearly a decade later, the Seattle native is making a comeback with new music, a new tour, and a new lease on life following some public battles with addiction. Join us backstage with Macklemore as he spouts off on what we can expect from him in 2023.

Yeah. In two thirteen and unlikely rapper catapulted to fame while popping tags, wearing an oversized fur coat and convincing millions of fans around the world to go to the thrift shop walk us to the club, Like what else I got? That big sounds pumped from the thrift shop and the friends just so damn fastly, the people like, that's a cool girl's honky. Well, what success without a little controversy. After taking home Best New Artists, Best Rap Song, Best Rap Performance, and Best Rap Album at the two fourteen Grammys, the limelight shined a little too bright and the Grammy goes to mc lamore and Ryan Lewis. Wow, we're here on this stage right now. First and foremost, I want to thank our fans, the people that got us on this stage. And many people felt that Kendrick Lamar and his album Good Kid Matt City, the overall favorite to win, was unjustly robbed. Mc lemore himself agree ead and texted Kendrick directly to apologize. When we were at the nominations and the nominations come out, Um, you know, first and foremost, Kendrick is a friend of miney, somebody that I love his music and in my opinion, had the best Rap album of the year. Um, and knowing how the Grammys usually go, I knew that there would be a great chance that would win that award, and in essence Rob Kendrick, So um, that's what happened to night. It's uh, it kind of sucks. I mean I think that there, I think we made a great album. I think that Kendrick made a better rap album. And that's what it is. And now, almost a decade later, the Seattle native is back with new music, a new tour, and a new lease on life, following some very public battles with addiction that is chronicled on his new single Me and the Homies on the same page for Me in the Way, that's my safe place. Get like I'm getting a week on the some need someone...

...to pray for myself right now. Everything's looking great and there's no white clouds. I don't know what to say. I got nothing to write now on my knees, questioning God, let why now I'm lost? But I'm found again. I'm up a night. I exhaust Since sir, I love my life. I got concerns. I've been through hell on some half come now it's just as well. I'm my losing. This is a spout podcast where famous people spout off about more than what they're famous for. And today that's Macklamore, here's Nick Major. I got it started off by saying, my first interview ever was back in January fourteen, and it was with Mary Lambert. Everyone has been hearing you lately on the radios, on the internet, with your McLamore and Ryan Lewis. They were looking for someone to write the hook. I think I was sort of a last resort, actually change, even defied, even defy. I was working at Hot Topic at the time and we're always jamming the heist, and so now I never thought, almost a decade later, I'd be in a bathroom with you chatting. Yes, thanks for dropping by, man. It's a full circle moment in the bathroom out here. But how are you, man? You're you're on tour right now. It's wrapping up tonight, the last one, and it's been going awesome for you. Yeah, it's been great, great, great crowds. Imagine dragons are amazing. Kings, Eli, it's amazing. It's been fantastic. You've been putting out a couple of new songs. Yes. One of the new tracks that you put out is a Maniac Yes, Mac, It's so hot. Yeah. Another track on his new album Bend is Maniac featuring...

Windsor, which also chronicles addiction but lays into the theme of the addictive ups and downs in a relationship. One thing I love about it is it's with Windsor. Windsor he's a guy Jordan's. I've known him since his previous projects. Why does everyone know Windsor. He's a talented guy who's just course he is. But like the most random people too that have nothing to do with the music industry also are like I know Jordan's and I know you also need your track Next Year with him as well. Yes, that started at the top of the year. I want cigarette little bit and this rem So how did you guys get involved with each other? Because it's a collap I'd love to see. Yeah. Ryan lewis Um was the one that introduced me to him, and I heard Next Year and I heard Maniac as hooks first, which normally doesn't happen that way, but that's how Ryan played them for me, and I immediately was Yep. Another name on the album is a familiar one to Backlemore fans, as the rapper is once again teaming up with producer Ryan Lewis. You're back working with Ryan Lewis. Everyone stoked to see that. I saw the announcement video that you guys did. Hey dude, I'm gonna see what are you ducking me? I know I wasn't. I thought I saw that. I heard it, but I thought you were talking. I was like you, I know that prior to the pandemic, right before it kicked off, you were working on some stuff. You're getting out here to finish up an album. Then the pandemic hit, you kind of scrapped at least to give you more time to at least focus on a new piece of work. And how did Ryan get back to being involved with with with you, because I'd imagine was he not involved with the work before the pandemic hit or he? Yeah, I don't think. I don't think that he was. Um and yeah, I came out of here. We brought the kids down l A for spring break. Bryan came over played me some records. That's where I first heard. Next year we made that record, and then later on he played me, Um, what turned into maniac and so...

...yeah, and then we also worked on some other stuff. I don't think, I think that that's it for this album, but we met some other record You know, you just get in the studio and make stuff. So Ryan's actually down the hallway right now. He's here tonight. What's up? And um, yeah, that's that's my brother. And when you guys parted ways, because I know you guys have been attached so much, it was Macklamar Ryan Lewis, But I know you're both your own artists. I mean you you had your own body of work that came out back and out five. I'm getting old and now it's some three years old. That happened. Me just wants to make the move and go and settled down. The other halfs like, hell no, you better mess surrounds on't let me down, especially when you had an album coming now. But was it at the point to where you guys were like, we've established so much together, we've worked so much together, let's go off and do our own individual stuff for a bit. You you dropped Jim and I you know, I'm back, like I never left. I never noticed spread I noticed that I'm not this first and foremost, like it came from a place of love. I think Ryan, you know, needed a little bit of a break once he he kind of initiated it. I was like, yeah, that makes sense. And um, you know, no love lost. It wasn't like we broke up over some drama. It was just like Ryan wanted to focus on some other things. I went off and and made GEM and I and you know here we are still, um, you know, close friends, like he knows me better than than most people in this world. You know, we spent a decade plus of our lives together like every single day, so it was just time to take a little hiatus. And you know, it's like I just asked him in the green room. I'm like, yo, you got one of these type of records, like I could use one of the you know, I'm I'll continue to make music with Ryan. That's awesome. I love to hear that and the tracks that you guys have put out now we're awesome. You guys just played the one on Jimmy Kimmel, which was riding here with the song mediac and some help from windsor not from More. I'm fell in love with their more dancing in the kitchen and stock. Another standout...

...track on the new album is Chant, featuring Australian pop sensation Tones and not look at when we started, look at where we got to almost sode that night in the hospital, wasn't gonna die more? Life in the arsenal got another shot to to cry for me. I'm the fight fight. You can't take my voice from me. And I know that the track that you have a tones as well, which I saw she got tattooed on her arm and I got here yesterday. I was saying to the girls, like I should go and get a tattoo for me. Man O, my gir what I remember it was right before the pandemic hit as well, when dance Monkey just blew up and now they've seen anybody death into the people. And I loved her voice because it was so unique and so cool. And now she's on the track with you. You guys are doing some shows together. I know she's coming out and singing what's what was that collab like between you guys? How did that all come to be? Tons came into Seattle, I went and checked out her show, met her. Um. I was familiar with the fact that you know, I was really influential and you know in her life, like she loved the Heist, and so I wanted to go meet her. You know, she was like a big fan, which is always weird to say, but like, you know, she was a fan, and I went to go meet her, and I was just blown away by her as a person. Loved her voice, loved her show. Um got in the studio and may chance and it's the video for that is dope. The video from Maniac is dope. What I loved in Maniac gets like that sixties talk show. Yeah, Clia type vibe, many of a spine,...

...new passions through our friends. And that's exactly what McLamore did when he was coaxed into picking up a five iron while on a golf course in Hawaii. He took that swing and never looked back, falling so deeply in love with the sport that he now has his own line of golf apparel called Bogie Boys for those that love the spirit of the game, the individual challenge and the pursuit of perfection, presenting Bogie Boys talking about kind of classic looks and vibes and sixties. You picked up golf recently, and I I was born in Seattle, actually, but I grew up in Reno, Nevada, and we have a golf course They're called Montra where the PGA Tour always stops off. And I've never the older I've gotten, the more interested I've wanted to be in golf, Like it just seems like a fun sport now to me, very intimidating though. I only want to do like the top golf, like where you're on the layers of it, because I can't imagine when you're like golf people who know what they're doing, and you have that first hit where you have to even try to go towards the whole. I died. I it's just too intimidating. But what was it about golf that then got you into two bogie boys? I know you've had some pop up shops. You just did one in Vegas over a area fifteen, You've had some up up in the Northwest. So what was it about golf that just took your heart. I've always loved the golf fashion way before I got into the sport, like I just love like I love plaid pants, golfing pants and um so yeah, I mean, I as cliche as it sounds like I would go to thrift shops and I would get you know, old golf outfits and I would wear them um as a teenager. So I always loved the fashion of golf, like the seventies fashion, eighties fashion. And I went out to play one day after Thanksgiving because there was nothing to do, and my friend dragged me out and and I hit one peer and I wanted that feeling again. And so to speak to what you're talking about in terms of the nerve racking part of golf, yes, it's very real. It's very real, like it doesn't and one to hit a couple of bad shots, then it's...

...just like in your head and then you're fighting your mind. It's very like reflective of life. You have to be present, you have to be grounded, You have to move on from the bad shots and just keep swinging, keep swinging, keep swinging. Are you wasting money on subscriptions? Of people have subscriptions they completely forgot about. Maybe for you, it's an unused Amazon Prime account or a Hulu account that never gets streamed. There's this great app I use that helps me track all of my expenses, and because of it, I no longer waste money on subscriptions I don't even use. You might have heard of it. It's called rocket Money, formerly known as true Bill. Rocket Money is an app that shows all of your subscriptions in one place and then cancels whatever you don't want. Rocket Money can even find subscriptions you didn't know you were paying for. You may even find out you've been double charged for a subscription. To cancel a subscription, all you have to do is press ansle and rocket Money takes care of the rest. So get rid of useless subscriptions with rocket money now go to rocket money dot com slash spout. Seriously, this could save you hundreds per year. That's rocket money dot com slash spout. Like many other artists that have been in the game longer than social media has been around, it has been quite the adjustment to adapt to the TikTok era of music. A big thing in the world that has changed in this ever changing world of music, and during the pandemic and since your last release, and as you're diving deep into it is TikTok, which I'm fully invested in. I love the TikTok world. But you were an artist who went back in when the heist was out and all stuff like that. It was a different era of music for spreading it. And now we're on the sound bites. People listen for a couple of seconds. You gotta make it TikTok, dance to it, or no one's gonna care. Seemingly you're killing it on TikTok. It's fun. It's given a good insight to your life, to your personality, to your family. Like I love to see by the way that Tricia are behind the scenes help that she did on...

...the Maniac video, Like I just see her cleaning people's shoes, doing all this fun stuff like that's always been She seems like a team player, Like it's so cool. That would be on her tombstone. Yes, what's the TikTok world like been like for you? Or you enjoying it? Is it stressful? It's a little bit of both. Yeah, it's a little bit of both. Uh, you know, I enjoy I enjoy TikTok. I think that, Um, I have a healthy relationship with it and that I don't. Um, I'm not on it scrolling, which is nice. That's nice, And I know I get how it's addictive, Like I've gone down a couple like rabbit holes and been like, you know, forty five minutes later like what am I doing? Like why am I watching like a teenager doing a SMR like you know, scratched. That's so true, and I'm like, I need to go. I need to go to bed um. So that's happened a couple of times, but I'm not I don't open it up to scroll. I post um and I think that when it's like, when it's authentic and it's real and it's genuine, that's the content that I like to make, and when it feels forced. But then again, like trying to figure out the algorithms of TikTok is an endless wormo into the abyss of nothingness. You can't know your guess as good as mine, and I hate I hate it too because like I saw. I was just telling my friends like I saw one horrible video on TikTok, like an alligatory and a zebra. I hated it. I was like, this is terrifying, but that's all that's on my feet now. I opened up TikTok and it's just national geographic animals killing each other, and I'm just like, this is like why I don't want it to be this. I can't look away. At the same time, I'm like, I'm like, gazelle is gonna get away this time the gazelle is dead. Like it's just horrifying. But good on you for not staying up till four am every day on TikTok, because that's why I have sleep issues now. And I think you're doing it the right way. Yeah, I think you're doing good. I'm trying. I you know, you'll put a bunch of time into a certain type of video. Does nothing like my most viewed video was literally a one take of me like...

...wrapping the first four bars of Can't Hold Us. That's how it goes. The one you put the least amount of what literally did one I didn't do too. I did one take that was it. And it's like, you know, over eight million plays or something turned to the back what it is when it does? When it is when it is like a four better way to get up out of bed instead of getting on the internet and checking into the multi talented artist doesn't just have golf under his belt, but magic as well. I mean it's well known around the world. You're a very talented magician. This is true. And I saw the incredible feat in which you made a piece of jewelry, aesthetically small piece of jewelry, blow up into a priceless Jim. I can do a bunch of magic, dude. I'm like the new David Blaine wrap. You've hinted at a magic album. Yes, is that gonna happen? You're gonna is it? Just a magic? Community got pissed, We're going to see Um. I'm trying to work it out with legal, but but yeah, David Copperfield is really like getting in the way of me executing that. It's understandable because you're a big threat to that community. But for list and foremost, it's about the music and the journey. Maclamore hopes to take fans through on his new album. Then there's a new album coming out. I'm guessing it's specifically it's just gonna be a Maclamore release. It's not gonna be Maclamore and Ryan Lewis, even though he is. And uh, what are you most stoked for for people to hear about this album? We've got two songs from it already. One thing that you are a master of is incorporating so many different vocalists throughout an album to help really complete the story that you're telling, which I've always loved the replayability from your fast vocals too. Then the catchy chorus is just one of the things that I think makes you a standout, really fun artist. What are you looking forward to with this next release? It's gonna be the first solo release from you in five years, yeah, which is crazy. Um. Yeah, the pandemic really threw off the old you know everything every two or three years. Uh yeah, I mean you're getting ready on that cycle right before. Okay, Um, so here we are five years later, yeah, or coming up on it. Um. You know, a lot of music is has been you know, on computers and hard drives for a while,...

...so I'm just excited for people to hear it. Um. I think it just continues to show my breadth does as an artist from you know, the different types of records that I make. You have like, um, you know, records that I grew up listening to, the sound, like nineties hip hop, you have, like eighties pop music, you have, you know, it's all over the board. Um, And I think that it's a really good body of work. And I'm just excited. There's not like one specific thing. It's just I just want the people to have the music. I love it because chance has kind of like that course, like that kind of like you're in a church almost feeling to it. And then it is kind of throwback with maniac you get i'm my nerves, I'm a you better reimburse all the things you beat me down to earth. We're both let's go. So you're already just throwing like a big different left left field throughout them lefts all the way, which is exciting. It's fun to be able to always to do that thing. And I've always loved you've done this independent, which I know is rad and like I mean, the accomplishments that you had in that time is just insane. And uh yeah, sitting down with you right now, I really appreciate it. Careful with the skin. I saw the sunburn that you got a couple of days ago. It looks like a nice tan now, skins peeling a little bit, but it looks good, looks good. You got the new music coming out, You're killing it on this tour, and I know you got to bring your parents out to a show, which I'm sure it never gets old with them seeing it. Did the family come out to any of these shows? And they on the tour with you? Nice? And I gotta go. I gotta go see them, Go see your family. Take it easy. I really appreciate you chatting and uh, take it easy. To see more of our conversation, search spelled podcast on I G or Twitter, or at out podcast dot...

...com. This episode of the Spout Podcast is presented by Alpha Media, written and narrated by tam Ridia, produced by Mark Long, and edited and created by Phil Becker. It's about h.

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