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Joe Nichols

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Over four years have passed since Joe Nichols released a new full-length album, and the country crooner admits changes were necessary throughout that time to get to a place of musical freedom. Meanwhile, Joe reunited with Benny Brown of Quartz Hill Records, and he reveals why he walked away from his former label to join Benny once again.

In this week’s Spout episode, he offers poignant advice for parents who have children considering a career in the music business, reveals the secret behind his good friend Blake Shelton's success, spouts off on his love for sports, and lets us in on must-try southern restaurants. He even gives us a sneak peek into his next release.

Despite his 588 million song streams and 20+ years in the music industry, Joe Nichols sits down with TikTok star Josh 'Bru' Brubaker for a candid conversation for country fans worldwide that feels like two good ol' boys hanging out in East Texas inviting you to listen in.

Country Music is timeless. It's rooted in tradition and storytelling. This simplicity that sets it apart from all other forms of music. But, like with all things, change happens. Over the years we've seen country music go from rigid traditional sounds to hip hop beats and fused with a fiddle and everything in between. But was a genre so heavily entrenched in tradition, how can you tow that line of honoring the past while still having a modern sound that people want to hear? For Joe Nichols, carrying that torch is a full time job. Joe Nichols was born in Rogers, Arkansas, and has been honoring those who came before him in country music for more than two decades. Nichols kicked off his music career at age nineteen, when he signed a record deal with an independent label in one thousand nine hundred and ninety six. Unfortunately, that signing brought little success and he was dropped from the label soon after. Like most musicians waiting on their chance for a career in country music who was taking odd jobs in Nashville just to make ends, me Scoble Shit unbreakable break. Luck would change for Nichols in one nine ninety nine when he met Nashville Session Guitarist Brent Rowan, who helped him land a record contract with universal south records. He released his second album, man with a memory. In two thousand and to the album's debut single, the impossible, hit number three on the billboard hot country songs chart. It was declared the ten most play country song by billboard. In two thousand and three, that album would give Nichols an ACM award for top new male vocalist, three grammy nominations and a platinum certification from our IAA is follow up single, broken Heartsville, would be nichols is first number one song not tout got to kill down and broken. Nichols was now in the country music spotlight. He spent most of two thousand and four opening for country music legend Alan Jackson on tour. In two thousand and five, Nichols would release his fourth studio album three and score his second number one song with Tequila makes her clothes fall off, which was the lead single off the album. Both to single and album received our IA a gold certifications. To keep them make sure. Clones all from two thousand and ten two thousand and fifteen, Nichols would strike golds several more times and songs like give me that girl and later Sonny and seventy five, which was released under Red Bow, a partnership he signed with after leaving his former label in two thousand and twelve. The follow up single, yeah, also reached number one on the charts, giving nichols six number one songs. Today, today he nichols, continues town or the traditional sounds of he's hero I was, while still making huge strides in today's ever changing country music sound, a perfect mix of old and new. Nichols is a country legend in the making and shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon. My name is Brou and this is this Spou podcast. We're famous people spout off for more than what they're famous for, and today that's Joe Nichols. All right, so it is always sunny and seventy five, but we get to talk to Joe Nichols. I'm sorry for the cheesiness, but welcome to the Stop podcast. Man, how are you? Appreciate I'm doing will man, how are you? I'm doing amazing. Like I said, it's so nice to get to see and catch up with someone who will all like love you as a guy in music, like everything. Come buy, and this is great to catch up. I feel like it's been so long. been a little crazy, you know, everybody's been kind of wondering what to do. So a lot of people have been in a studio making record since I couldn't be out in front of fans, you know, doing shows, and then the meantime found a lot of songs that I was really comfortable with and Benny Brown found a lot of songs that he liked. We're not a lot of empty time in there not a lot of...

...useless time away. It seems like it flies by, Dude, like it's just two thousand and twenty two. What's happening? Yeah, no, that's exactly right. It's so interesting about like switching labels, and I know, like you're on a label and then he stepped away. Who is the guy who brought you in? When you're finding a new label, is it like a process of finding a good fit? This is you take the time to like see which one works best for you? Or that's a great question. When I was on Red Bo, Bennian was my guy. You know, Benny signed me. There and he doug the kind of music that I doug, you know, use all into old school stuff, Merle Haggard. We always shared moments and laughter and shared music with about Merle haggard and a lot of old stuff and when he saw the label there was it was just a different dynamic. Relationships with the new leadership hadn't been formed and I didn't really know them that well and the new people came in and there's just it was going to take a lot of time. I don't think they were big fans of my music. That's nothing to say against them, but that's just kind of how it was. And and so we mutually thought it'd be best for everybody just to go separate ways and find another opportunity. They had a spot, you know, for maybe a younger guy or a guy that's maybe a little more musical their taste, and I can be free to go find another opportunity with somebody like Benny Brown, who kind of psych see things the way I see him. And now on the spot your end, you feel like you have the freedom to really do what you want to do and like explore new things or not just freedom. There's a lot of trust. Trust that people know what they're doing, especially Benny Brown. I do feel free in a lot of ways because I'm working with people I love, I don't going to say and I love working with these people. I mean I love the people that I'm working with because, you know, most of the time you don't in this business. I think we all mean well for each other, so whatever it takes to do the right thing for each other. We do wander on these numbers by you, because I don't know if you're like a stats guy or even if you look at this or anyone sends it to you. Joe Nichols Music on all the streaming platforms it's seventeen point eight billion audience impressions, over five hundred eighty eight million streams to date and two point three million every week. Like. Do those makes sense? Well, they sound like big numbers. I don't know, they make sense. I wish I could kind of put that into into a category up here or clicks, but it doesn't. But it's a sounds like a big number and I'm Hmm, I'm thankful that that's there. Hopefully we'll get some money eventually for you for those things. One day we'll get paid. is where's all the money? That's all those royalty checks. You do one commercial years ago, you like twenty cents in the mail. Where is the check? And it is so different now and I would love to hear perspective on it, like, is it weird or anything surprised you now the way music is where the so much more streaming and you can get into it so many different ways now. Make the analogy like a sport. You know, if you if you grew up playing the game of baseball and you throw the ball, hit the ball, catch the ball, and that's the way the game is played, and all of a sudden a new thing called analytics comes out and says, well, don't necessarily throw it all the time. Sometimes you roll the ball and sometimes bunting is the only way to hit and sometimes you just steal bases all day long. The game is different. For this guy that grew up playing t ball and baseball and all that kind of stuff, it's hard to adjust to what the new boundaries are, and I think that's more in the business part of the music business that I that I try not to understand a lot of any way because it make my head hurt and then I'll make my soul hurt. It is different nowadays, the the numbers, the way they calculate, the way everybody gets paid. who gets what part of the Pie? It still doesn't make total sense to me. I think a guy from the black keys put it best. You know that the guy that we're invented spotify is worth what to three billion dollars? Never played an instrument, HMM? And Paul McCartney's worth what a bit and a half, you know? Yeah, when the greatest of all time. That's just kind of the world we're in. You know, we're adapting to that. I do love here and all those numbers, and thank you to spotify or contributor to that. That's it sounds good. Absolutely. I mean shot some money ball to what a great movie and like yeah, well, that's lyrics and I'm analytics. Yeah, if you can get on base, Jow, they're gonna get you out the team. So don't worries on that. That's going base. Put me in coach. That's a that's aving about the whole new way. But like, I don't know if you follow anything with Tick Tock, but people can blow up overnight and just get a record deal like it's just a it's a crazy...

...world. I want music is come to you. But I mean you had a fast climb, like it's maybe not a fast climb, but a really cool story and I'd love to hear a little bit about you starting off the very first job, besides the blueberry picking, but the DJ job back in the bars. I mean, explain the bar to me, because it sounds like it's not like a radio DJ, which I'm a radio guy, so I would have been thrilled, but it's more of like venue type DJ. We had this place that was called BOOT scooting. It was on a little bitty public lake called Lake Atlanta and Rogers, Arkansas, and it's little, basically a dance floor and some tables. It looked like a regular bar. The only thing we didn't sell booze, so all the teenagers could come in and get like they're pre training for how to go out to close Capri signs. This is where you go and you can't drink and this is, you know, the older couples that that want to come to dance and they don't want the bar stuff in the fights and stuff, but this is where you were trained to go to bee, you know, lion dancing and bars. That's but that's where I worked at you know, kind of play a music and they had a band in their on right and Saturday nights, I'd say him with the band stuff, and that's kind of my first GIG that I remember. Yeah, and then, mean talk about moving upgrading gigs just years later. Oh, for traveling with Alan Jackson and Toby Keith. I mean, yeah, you think you're your country DJ. Soelf, what is said? If you told yourself, you know, you'd be touring with those guys. When I first got the call of a tour with Allen Jackson, I that's to me. It was like winning a lottery. It was like this is gonna be amazing, not because of what it did for my career, but what it did for me. Like Egoise, like I'm on a stage with Alan Jackson, this is one of the greatest icons of country music ever and he's letting me come to her with him. I hope I don't look like an idiot. There was a you know, I'm sure lots of moments that I did look like an idiot, but I just thought that was the biggest thing because I thought so much of him. I think the world of that guy and toby as well. You know, I thought these were huge opportunities career wise, and that was good. I I heard a lot of people in the business tell me what what that meant for my career. But the coolest part for me was I'm on stage in front of Twentyzero Allen Jackson fans and they're going to put me and you know, next to him in the car, you know, the CD player. That's kind of a big deal. Yeah, and now you're the you know, you're the soundtrack to so many memories, which is wild to me, because you know how like you hear a song and it always brings back, yeah, some memory in your life. Like how's it feel to have so many songs that people like, oh my gosh, Joe Nichols, that's like a huge part of my life. It's of course it's the best compliment and worst compliment you can get. It's one of the best things. When I hear somebody come up in the meet and Greek line, I go man, then be a thirty year old person comes to the meet and Greek Line said, man, I grew up into you. Oh that's that's wonderful. I appreciate it. But how that stung a little. Sure you grew out, listen to me, but now it's it. Those are great compliments, wonderful compliments, and I love the soundtrack to life because when I listen to the old stuff that I did, you know, broken hearts, filling possible, I think about where I was in my life at that time. The Christmas album is another one that the other day, you know, just not too long ago, we were we had that in a car on rotation, you know, and a song would pop it on from that album, silent night or something like that. I remember the days I spent the studio working on that record and I remember what kind of mentality I had making that. And talk about the soundtrack of your life. I was making a Christmas album. I was probably as depressed as I've ever been in my life, and there's been some good depression in my life. And I remember these Christmas songs everyone would make me just start balling like a baby. I couldn't get through a song and it stopped. Take a break, you know, go take a drink or something somewhere, but I would come back in and have to hold it together to sing happy Christmas songs. Listening to that Christmas album. I'm like wow, doesn't make me feel like that now, but it sounds like I was so happy and he so kind of light and then into the Christ spirit and we cut in the middle of like August or something, but it was a hundred degrees outside, right. But that's so interesting because you don't think about it like the bad memories. Someone could come up to Joe, I was going through a breakup and your songs on the background and Hey, Oh yeah, I've gotten all kinds of crazy stories at a guy tell me the other day he lost his virginity. Tyeah. All right, you know, I'm not. We're...

...not there. So this is this is the PG are where your pg or we are right. Your going to this podcast. I'll get good podcast the other's first thought I had of this guy was like hey, man, that's cool being up a little bit. You're too close. That's cool. Yeah, we don't need to go to further than that. You know that. But I think that's beautiful about music and if you could have the kind of impact like that where people remember you and remember where they were what they were doing when they heard this song, that's a pretty special deal. I makes this music thing more than just about money, really, doesn't it? Of course, I think that's always what it's been about. And Yeah, you brought more joy than anything else, so that's the best part. And you went throw serious guy. That guy a lot of joy. Whoever that at least a couple minutes there. Yeah, how do you transition from that? This episode of the Spout podcast is sponsored by hello fresh. With hello fresh, you get farm fresh, preportion ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstep. Skip trips to the grocery store and count on hello fresh to make home cooking easy, fun and affordable, and that's why it's America's number one meal. Kid. Huh. Everyone always says New Year knew us, but why wait for a resolution? It's starting now with the fit and wholesome recipes for satisfying and nutritious meals from hello fresh that you can feel good about, with six recipes per week to choose from, including low calorie and carb conscious options. The customization with hello fresh is insane. You can customize your favorite dishes with their new hello custom offerings by swapping out one protein or side for another, upgrading for more lux experience or even adding protein to a veggie meal. That means more choices, more variety and more meals truly tailored to you. Hello fresh is seventy two percent cheaper than a restaurant meal of the same quality. So let me do the math row quick. On average you can save sixty five dollars per month when you order hello fresh instead of grocery shopping. And it's the same stuff, but it comes with the recipes and how to make it. Amazing. That's money back in your pocket. Go to hello fresh Acom spout sixteen and use code spout sixteen for up to sixteen free meals and three free gifts. As Hello freshcom spout sixteen and code spout sixteen. That's hello fresh, America's number one meal kit. This episode is sponsored by ritual. We all need protein, and it's not just for the muscles, but for so many other essential things in the body like bone health. Ritual's essential protein is a delicious plant based protein powder with three distinct formula's designed to meet the bodies changing protein needs. The reason I use protein is to replenish the body after an intense workout. Let's talk about the ritual difference. It's traceable with rituals one of a kind of visible supply chain. You know the what, how and why of every labeled ingredient, which is huge in the suppl men's world, and you'll find that it's all the good stuff, no added sugar or sugar alcohols. It's so a free, gluten free and not GMO. Plus, it's great tasting, delicious handcrafted vanilla flavor from substainably harvested Madagascar Vanilla being extract. Oh it's fancy. Ready to shake up your protein ritual. Our listeners get ten percent off during your first three months at Ritualcom spout. Ritual even offers a money back guarantee. If you're not a hundred percent in love with it's you might as well try it out. Ritualcom is slash spout today for ten percent off your first three months. No go to. Where are you at right now, by the way? You're in a different phase of life. Are you you in like Nashville or no? I'm in Texas. I live in in Tyler, Texas, a little town east of Dallas, directly between Dallas and STREETPORT, and I love it man, it's it's the place I wanted to raise my kids. Heather my wife, Heather. Her family is all around there. They're all from from East Texas there, and so being kind of dug in with family and having a...

...lot of people I can depend on down there for a lot of things. That's just kind of where we wanted to be. Everything's I have business wise is still based out of Nashville. I still fly to Nashville and I joined the tour out them. You know, wherever towns we're going to start in and and fly home from there. But yeah, my life, my home life, when I when I step off the plane and Tyler, I turn into a different as. It's Dad. It's that. It's with poop on my shoe and Puke on my shoulder. You know, that's kind of that's then where I live in it's harder getting a hit song or being a dad. What's the harder feat? Who? Well, I can look at that two different ways. Number One, getting the dad part right. HMM, that is the hardest thing. I think being a dad is anybody can do it, I think. Yeah, just turned some Joe Nichols and you go to the baby or not. Maybe don't take your finger that light socket. Where you go dad, being a good dad. No, one, the right thing to say at the right time. That I think that's way harder than having a it that I catch myself so many times and my daughter will come up to me with some kind of profound problem and I'll go, I'm going to need to do something else right now because I don't know what to say. I don't know what kind of advice to give you, so I'm just not going to say anything. Doing the best you can that's all you can ask me. At exactly right sometimes saying nothing is the best advice. Ah, it's talking about hits, you know, future hit makers. Maybe your daughters. I hear they're super talented. They are. They're all singers. They're all singers. My nine year old as she's such a little artist, mentalent, as she paints and draws just from memory and she draws dimensions and things and I can't wrap my brain around how an artist mind works like that, painting and and then she'll write songs and then she'll write how she feels and then she'll sing something in a very stylistic way. I'm like, who is this little kid, this nine year old kid? But my seven year old is a great singer, but she's a performer and it's all about how do my shoes look? How does my Nex look? Let it go, let it go. That's the seven year old and so an artist and a performer and I guess that's the world's I have right now at the house. Yeah, well, I know you probably is a parent want to wait on like diving into the business for that side, because you know how it is and all that. It's like, you know, let him live their lives before they even explore that. But, like you know, we hear so many stories about the music industry. We all know there's different avenues and stuff. What's something about maybe the music industry that if somebody like you, say your daughters, were trying to get into it, that they don't know and maybe you would want to be cautious. So I put it like this to my child, or anybody's child, this business does not give you results for the work. You could do everything right, you could be the best, the brightest, you could do the everything right, you could be the luckiest. All those things could come together magically and happen and you would still you could still fail because somebody in an office somewhere decided no, and that's that. Simple. You could do everything right. You could, you know, if you were and wanted to be a lawyer. You go to Graduate College, You Graduate Law School, you take the L S at and you all the sudden you pass the bar and you have a law degree. Well, at the after that pass the bar, thing, if there were a guys sitting in an office that was about a hundred pounds overweight, smoking a cigar and had no reason, didn't know anything about being a lawyer, let alone having to make decisions. If that Guy said, flip a coin, you can make it. If it doesn't land on heads, all that was for nothing and you walk out of out of law school or town and you have no career. That's kind of the way I would describe it to kids, that there are still a lot that's not even in your control and you could do all of it right and you could be the best in the town. The most talent, some of the most talented singers and riders are people you've never heard of, people that you know make their money on Broadway, people that are die and starve and trying to get a demo herd or trying to get into studio to make a demo. What I would tell kids be prepared to do everything you can and still fail. Wow, while they're growing...

...up still and enjoying things. I want to go back to the home life. In Texas. I heard you have this Boogie Golf Cart that I want to know about. It's got like velvet seats or something, a little bill to see. GOT FROM WHEELS, red belly, wrong wheels. You give rides on that like well's you gonna pay? Oh Yeah, man, in my defense, that was all heather. That was all my wife. It sounds like something I would do, though it really really do that, but now she did that and I remember we pulled it up to the country club for the first time. You know, of course very Bush would type country club. Play Golf in there like that going cart isn't going on this golf course and I'm like, well, were. Yet you get right with my I get a problem with my ride here, man, my pimp and ride. Well, from wheels and the red velveteats, and they were not having it. Everything was uniform. Like I said, a little bit of a snooty country club, but that was my wife's done. Yeah, so the next edition, you going to put a fridge in that thing like heated seats. I guess a Texas. You don't need a six, six eight inch lift kid on it. Hey, why? So they can hot brings. Yeah, maybe you're gonna right that. A coin every nighte. You just gotta. Every time we talked. Now I want to hear like the next stolement it just so I've put a long horns on the front of it. Man, let go full taxes. I's your get back into, you know, the performing like. I'm sure you got some tours, like are some performance dates coming up, and you know you're going to be pushing these songs. But with something in your free time that you do that maybe we don't know about? I do a lot of golf. That them. That does me a lot of good because, you know, he's play with a couple of friends in mine and whatever crazy things are rolling around in my head, I usually at some point spout those off in that golf game and they let me know how crazy I'm thinking. That's a it's kind of like an accountability meeting for a couple hours way lace waying the golf clubs therapy and and by tell you what I got to hit in the tense workout every day. I gotta hit some kind of twenty thirty minute high intensity work out every day and just kind of relieve all the jitteriness in my body. That actually helps me every day get get some stuff worked out. I feel that I'm the same way. It's almost like a therapy tight it really is. Honestly, that's a good therapy to if you can't really verbally get out some of those emotions. I feel like you know, jim is such a great alternative. So, Cabot, what about you cook it all like? Would you ever have a restaurant? I do cook. I do actually probably the majority of the cooking. Hmm, Oh, the past year or two. I do like to cook. I'm better at it than I used to be, but I could never own a restaurant. I are learned a valuable lesson early on from a person that's owned a few of those restaurants. Never invest in anything that can eat or go bad or spoil, and that's that's pretty much it. Don't don't buy horse races horses and don't buy food. Don't buy host Drans. Will just stick to the eating parlor. them the business. That's right, unless you worry about that. Well, Arkansas, they have the two thousand and twenty two food hall of fame finalists. I was trying to think if I ever. I've never been in Arkansas. Sadly. I can't wait to get out there and visit here. It's a lovely place. What's the spot like if I go out there? What do we got to eat? Well, in northwest Arkansas, I'd say rights barbecue for sure. Those eat places kind of a chain. It's kind of throughout Mississippi and Arkansas. If you if you're a steak eater, their steaks are massive. I think their poor houses for two or three people, about forty eight, fifty two inches. It's some of the best cuts of meat I've ever had in my life. So it's doze eat place. That's in Fayetteville. Trying to thank some of the old places that I se roam around. I'll read you the list real quick. Dairy, okay, poor show. You ever hear them? It's like these might be new ones since you've been there. But her ma rib house fall her Herman's, yeah, her arms. He's on the list. Kaho and Sons Produce Little Rock. Okay, all on the list of nominees. Dairy king that I said Dairy Queen. I was like, wow, they're nominating dairy queen for there we're country, but man, that's bad. Well, very much, speaking of Count Street, New Song Out Blake shelt and that's got to be so exciting. I mean what a guy. I mean, I know you've known it for like twenty plus years, but like everyone seems to have a blake story, and I'm sure he is a Joe Nickels Story. But when you think like Shelton, like what comes to...

...mind? You know, that guy's the same guy that I first met twenty three years ago. He's the same exact guy. He has always been loud and the kind of humor that only he can have. Yeah, if I tried some of the things that he says, man, people would punch me in the face, you know, because it's crude and it's but he does it in a way that's just kind of his personality's not not a harmful way, it's just kind of personality how he is. So in that regard I think he's truly a unique person. He is in one of a kind kind of person. Now things great. Having him on this record is so cool because, and he didn't have to do these big star. He's on the voice, he's probably doing a hundred different things with a hundred different people and and doesn't really have a lot of time to just do nothing. And for him to say yeah, man, let's do it, we've always wanted to do something like this, so let's do it, and went from studio and on his own time and put his part on it and I thought, man, that sounded like a hit before, but now it really does sound like a smash. Just got to get the Cherry on top now with it, with your music video. Get Him in on that right. It's gonna be a blast. I'm sure be great if we let him direct the music video. Matt, would be epic. I think you do great. I think it would too. I think we need to make it happen. Good Day for Living Song. It's out. You know. You've got a music video off of that. Instantly. I think of you. Good Day for leaving what's one of your best memories, like the best days of your life. Whoo, I'll tell you this. You know not to get too deep into one thing. When I first got sober, first time I ever felt grateful for everything. I think that's a big, big, huge mum, monumental time in my life when my babies were born, all three of them, when my daughter Dylan, who my heather and I struggled with with infertility for several years. We had six miscarriages before Dylan came and she was a miracle. There are so many things that had to happen just right for her to come into this world and when she first came out of the womb and she cried instantly, I was broken down in tears. Head was a mess. It was the most relief and enjoy if ever felt in my entire laugh and I know she'd feel the same way. That's beautiful. And of course, when the cardinals won the world series. You know, I that's a pretty good deal. I mean I like it. I like game six, Two Thousand and eleven world series. That was a pretty Nice heiling down down to your last strike. Twice. Maybe freeze Lance burtman still hunting the Texas Rangers Dreams, Oh man, all the time, missed the hands. Fantastic. Yeah, what would you be doing if you weren't a country Music Star? Like would you be? Would you be a GM? Would you dabble into that? I don't think I'd have the temperament for that, for that kind of job. I tell you what, I could comment on a lot of things. I could sit back in Armchair quarterback just about anything, but now I definitely get into broadcasting with sports. I'd love Ah Circle, being in that and some capacity broadcasting the sports. That's amazing. Well, I mean, we're so excited now that you're you all. I'm obviously that you're still performing and a road and putting out new music. Like, what else do you want to tell people about the next way of Joe Nichols that's coming out? Well, let's say I'll start with this album. The the album is is good top to bottom and has got a lot of ninety s throwbacks kind of songs in there, some country dance songs that I would have played at that non alcoholic bar about how to play some of these things there. There's a lot of pot of positivity in this record. You know, good day for living as a good example. Home run was a good example of positivity. You know, I think the world needs to kind of lift his Chin a little bit and look a little brighter and smile a little bit. Good Day for living is our Ted Lasso's hopefully going to put everybody in good mood. It's a good album and I'm really happy with this album. Oh, I'm so excited, like we're so glad to have you back. I feel like everybody's had that same kind of reaction. They're like, you're alive, you know you're a liar. It's just one of those guys. You could do what you want now. You don't have to do anything for us. So that's happy that you are back. You know, I appreciate man. Thank you. To See more of Bruce. Conversation with Joe Nichols. Search SPOUT PODCAST OUT OF IG R, twitter or it's spout podcastcom. Next Week...

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