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Janet Jackson Versus The Halftime Show

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Janet Jackson's pop dreams began when she was just the baby sister to the music juggernaut of The Jackson 5. But Janet had her own vision of superstardom. As soon as she went solo, she wasted no time breaking boundaries and finding her own sound. By the early '90s, Janet was influencing the likes of Madonna, Mariah Carey, and even her brother, Michael.

Spout Podcast creator Phil Becker and the hosts of Wondery's Podcast 'Even The Rich: Janet vs. The Halftime Show' tell the story of Janet Jackson's historic music career and the infamous 2004 Super Bowl halftime performance that almost derailed it.

Listen to the rest of this episode at: http://wondery.fm/ETR_SPOUT

Hi, I'm Spou podcast Creator Phil Becker, and I just wanted to take a minute to thank you for being a part of unbelievably over one million downloads on the spout podcast. So thank you so much for that. All of us here that means a ton, whether you listen to our very first episode with bets or whether you're listening to this week's episode, and to think that we're now a million downloads is just so wonderful. So thank you for being a part of that. I was recently asked by someone why'd you create the spout podcast? For me, it really started with a love for music from childhood, never knowing you would turn into this podcast where we interview some of the biggest artists in the world. But for me as a child, the biggest artist in the world, hands down, I couldn't get enough of him, was Michael Jackson. I mean I was a diehard Michael Jackson Fan. I had the glove, I had the zipper jacket from beat it, I had the thriller jacket. I was making Michael Jacksons scrap books, collecting Michael Jackson Cards. I couldn't get enough on Michael Jackson from off the wall to thriller, to bad so, being a big Michael Jackson Fan, I set myself deep into learning more about Michael and the fame Jackson family and in that research, as a ten year old boy, that's when I learned about his sister Janet. Her name is Janet Jackson. My first exposure to WHO Janet Jackson was exactly was during the show good times, where she played the character penny, and then years later I saw her on fame and then years later she was on one of my favorite shows, as Willis his girlfriend on different strokes. At the time I knew that Janet was famous for her vaguest performances with her brother and then her acting career, but I didn't really get a...

...sense of what her music was like until probably the control album. Now, on that album there's a line that is so infamous that it's still today the part of pop culture. Now, while I was into the control album and I liked a couple of the songs, it wasn't really until rhythm nation that I became pretty much as big of a fan of Janet as I was to Michael. The whole military look of rhythm nation was kind of similar to what you'd see Michael doing at some point in his career, but Janet was doing it her own way. From that album is where we got the famous for three and you remember how like you'd have to do your hands and your fingers a certain way. Just a couple of weeks ago actually, that caught back on on ticktock as people were actually doing the rhythm nation challenge and trying to configure their hands exactly as Janet did in that video. That rhythm nation album was probably, I don't know, one of the first fifteen or twenty cassettes I've ever bought. I bought her from coconuts on grape road in MICHUACA, INDIANA. I'm telling you, I listened to that thing over and over. I started to notice some similarities between Janet and her fame and brother. If you listen to the song black cat, you'll notice that there's kind of like a hard rock vibe similar to that of dirty Diana for Michael Years before then. I also noticed on the song living in a world that Janet actually sort of reminded me, or gratitude was as she talked about people that are struggling,...

...very similar to many Michael Jackson songs from man in the Mirror to heal the world to we are the world. Janet Zeroed in on global problems and put that right there on the record. Now fast forward a couple of years and Janet's taken off the rhythm nation hat and the ear ring with a key in it and given us an entirely new look on the cover of rolling stone cover roles that it's a lot of people thought that I was maidulated into to do in that, but it was my idea. That was the cover that was heard around the world and like everywhere I went, every guy that I knew had that Janet Jackson poster in the room. I remember my best friend from childhood, Shane, was going to a Quinas college and in his dorm room right there when you open the door, the cover of rolling stone with Janet and all we would ever say to each other is like whose hands do you think those are? Finding out years later that it was her husband or a quiet secret, sort of not talked about husband, renee. Now here we are. It's one thousand nine hundred and ninety three that Janet Rolling Stone covers being talked about all over the world, and Janet then gets back into her acting lane when she does poetic justice with Tupac. I do look at at Nunte the music a turning point for myself with the film, doing my first film, which is always been a dream of mind to see my my big face on the big screen. If this was a John singleton movie, and I was deep into John Singleton movies at that point too, from boys in the hood to Poetic Justice. I was a huge Tupac Fan, pocket just come off of juice, and so here we are seeing Tupac as a love interest of Janet, and that's sort of brewed up the whole thing that did they really have chemistry, did they not, even though Janet was married?...

What happened there? There's all kinds of rumors around the internet if you ever want to look into that. But this was a time where Janet really zeroed in on acting, as well as releasing a song from the soundtrack that became enormous. That's where we got the song again. Now, around this time, Janet is thriving in Michael's focused on surviving. This was around the time that we had the first round of child abuse allegations, and so what starts to happen is Michael Becomes more tabloid. In Janet becomes more of the Star. Four months the rumors and accusations captured headlines worldwide. Never before had so big of a star of and accused of so bad of a crime. Now, at that point I'm sure there was somebody in Janet's camp that were like, you should distance yourself from your brother, and she actually did the exact opposite. Now for me, my world's collided in one thousand nine hundred and ninety five because on the same song, in the same music video, we had Michael and Janet was scream. That song kept Michael Back in the public eye. Let us focus a little bit on as music, as opposed to the allegations, and Janet just kept it pushing again with another killer album. At this point, from Janet we get velvet rope. What's what's the next song? One about me. Now one of my favorite things about that album is this is when Janet began to infuse hiphop more and more into her music, in particular collaborating with q tip for the song got till it's gone. There's a lot of good, classic Overlook Janet Songs on the villa rope. If you haven't listened. Now we're going to fast forward a couple of...

...years to two thousand and one, where I actually had the chance, this is crazy, to go to a dinner with Janet Jackson as she promoted her album all for you. What this dinner was in Chicago, and the concept of the dinner was really cool. There were five tables of five people to twenty five people in total, and it was a five course meal and it each one of the courses Janet would come and sit with your table and talking he with you. Maybe you were at the cocktail table or you were at the salad table, are you were at the appetizer table or the entree table or the dessert table, whichever when you were assigned, there were actually six seats, five seats for guests one seat for Janet. Jane would come over, she'd sit down with you. You could ask her questions, you could ask her about the album. She actually had a real sort of warmth to her where she wanted to know as much about out the people she was sitting with as people that were sitting with and want to know about her. So here I am sitting at an overpriced hotel in Chicago eating dinner with Janet Jackson. Now, if you would have told me when I was at coconuts records buying the Janet Jackson Rhythm nation tape that in two thousand and one I'd be sitting there having dinner with her, I would have never believed you. And this isn't the same time because she's dating Jermaine Dupre. Now, I'm a big hip hop fan to so I look over and there's Jermaine dupre just hanging out, letting Janet have her moment. As you're having dinner. They knew album is playing. She's talking about the different songs on there. And then how comes the photographer, where everyone gets to do photos with Janet, and I'm telling you, if I showed you this picture, she lights up when that camera comes out at a level that is like unprecedented, the million dollar smile. People to see this photo or and they say to me, you guys look like your best friends and I'm like yeah, I'll all we had was a salad together, but it was awesome. Now the all for you...

...album is out, Janet's out. On to her and she does something on stage that I would have thought would be her biggest on stage moment. If you went to that tour and you saw her perform the song, would you mind? That's the point where she brings a fan up on stage and performs a lap dance for them to the song which, by the way, that's the same performance that inspired the normani Tiana Taylor lap dance at the two thousand and twenty one VMA's Janet was the creator of all of that. So janets out on tour, she's doing the all for one thing. She's truly on top of the world. How do you get any bigger than Janet Jackson at this point? But what you do is you do halftime at the Super Bowl. SEC received more than five hundredzero complaints about that broadcast. CBS was fined five hundred and Fiftyzero dollars and then the NFL was asked to refund the ten million dollars that they had been given to the halftime show sponsor. That was a super bowl performance that we didn't talk about, though, for the same reason that I would have talked about it as a big Jedetfan. We talked about it for obviously what happened during the wardrobe malfunction with her and Justin Timber Lake, the song. Now, seeing that the Super Bowl was just a couple of days ago, the timing on this podcast that I want to tell you about is incredible. It's the even the rich podcast, Janet Jackson verse the Halftime Show. If you're not familiar with even the rich, it's a wondry podcast that pulls the curtain back on the lives of the rich and famous and takes a peek into that wild world of celebrity. Now, like I said, this most recent episode takes a look at not only Janet's historic music career but that infamous halftime performance that almost derailed her career. See what happened was in a faithful, split second moment at the two thousand and four half...

...time show, Janet's life and career took her dramatic turn. If you're a Janet Fan like me, a football fan, a pop culture fan, someone who likes to study the influence of the media, the one dry podcast even the rich, Janet verse the Halftime Show, looks back at her iconic career and really the moment where we created the term wardrobe malfunction. And there's a lot of things about that halftime show that you might remember, but there's a lot of things that people have forgotten. So I want to play you a preview of even the rich Janet verse, the Halftime Show. Now why you're listening? Follow even the rich on apple podcast, Amazon music, spotify, or you can even listen ad free by joining one dry plus and the one drey APP. Let's take a moment go back to two thou and four, the Super Bowl halftime show with Janet Jackson. This episode contains references to physical abuse and disordered eating that some listeners may find triggering. Oh and there may be a few language malfunctions. Please be advised. It's February first, two thousand and four at the reliant stadium in Houston, Texas. Thousands of fans are losing their but Janet Jackson, she's in the zone. It's Super Bowl Sunday, you know, the most important night of the year in American television, and Janet is the halftime headliner. The pressure is on and the air is thick with excitement. The stadium is full to the brim with eager fans, and one hundred and forty four million people are watching at home from their living rooms. This just might be the biggest audience Janets ever had. She can feel their energy vibrating through her body as she gets ready to take the stage for the second time tonight. She's already performed for mega hit all for...

...you. Now she's waiting for her queue to start her second number as the headliner. She's closing out the show too. On stage, Nellie is performing his hit song hot in. Here he grips a mic in one hand and his crotch in the other as he vamps for backup. Dancers dress as cheerleaders. They saying I am getting so hot I'M gonna take my clothes then rip off skirts to reveal tiny white hot pants. Moments later, Kid Rock performs with women in Wet tshirts waving giant American flags. God bless America. Seriously, she and it watches from the monitors backstage and chuckles to herself as she slips into her next costume. Of all the artists performing tonight, she knows the CBS execs think she's the safe choice. Nellie and kid rock it to be Raunchy, but that's not what she's here for. In fact, she's so safe that she's closing out her next song with none other than squeaky clean upandcomer Justin Timber Lake. He's really getting his paws all over these stories, isn't he? It's getting this pause all over everything. Yeah, CBS wants a halftime show that will be irresistible to teens and young adults, and that means the biggest stars of the trl generation. Hence Justin. But Janet doesn't mind. Right now, she feels like she's on top of the world. For her, the stage is a safe space. This is where she's at her best. Off Stage she's introverted, awkward even. I mean she struggled for years with depression, body dysmorphia and even a string of abusive relationships, but on stage she's untouchable. Performing makes her feel practically transcendent. As the youngest member of her famous family, she always felt overlooked and ignored. I mean it's hard to stand out in a family full of stars. People assume...

...things come to Janet easily, but she knows better. She's had to fight and claw her way to the top of the music industry, and it was hard, but she made it. This performance is her victory lap. That's why now it miss high stakes moment. She's totally zen on stage. Kid rocks set fades out, the stadium lights dim and electric blue spotlights scan the screaming crowd. It's go time. Balloon banners snap in the Mild Texas breeze. Backup dancers drape themselves over the stage like trapeze artists, writhing to the opening bars of rhythm nation. As the beat kicks in, Janet puts her game face on. She rises from below the stage looking like a vampire fetish queen, dressed head to toe in shiny black tvc there's this hint of red lace around her cleavage. She might be fully covered, but Janet knows how to keep her fans wanting more. The crowd goes wild at the sight of her. Everything is going exactly the way she planned, at least until the beat of Justin's single rock your body rises and he joins her on stage. Janet breathes a sigh of relief. The hard part is over. Is that a foreshadow I smell here? Damn right it is. The backup dancers fade away and now it's just the two of them, commanding the crowd. Janet struts across the stage while Justin chases after her like a starving lap dog. She makes him look good and, more importantly, she's having a blast. Janets totally in her element. There's no way tonight could have gone any better. Finally, she and Justin come together. It's right about time for the little surprise they plan together backstage. As the song ends, Justin reaches over...

...and tugs hard on the top of Janet's Black Boustier. End of this song. It's almost as if it happens in slow motion. Janet's adrenaline spikes. Panic overtakes her. Something is very wrong. For a fraction of a second, the world stops as her entire right breast is exposed on national television. She scrambles to cover herself and protect her modesty, but it's too late. A hundred and forty four million Americans have already seen the Shiny Silver Nipple Shield she's wearing under her costume. At our shoulder, Justin just stairs, slack jawed as fireworks explode behind them. Then the lights go dark. It's the end of the halftime show and when America wakes up the next morning, all anyone can talk about is the end of Janet Jackson's career. Is that incredible? How they reflected on that there. There's so many things I forgot about that. You know how, all the sudden we had we had Nellie and we had kid rock and we had Justin timber lay call on the stage. But really all we remember is Janet and Justin and the Wardrobell function. To hear the rest of this awesome even the rich podcast, Janet Jackson versus Super Bowl Gool. Listen now, wherever you find your podcasts. We'll be back tomorrow with another episode of the SPOUT podcast. Thank you for being a part of our one million down loads and maybe even some day Janet Jackson will spout off on the spout podcast. Spout.

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