Spout Podcast
Spout Podcast

Episode 60 · 2 months ago

Iann Dior

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

With a last name like Dior, you might expect to hear about fashion this episode, but Iann Dior spouts off about everything but.

Iann joins Spout host Nick Major to talk skateboarding injuries, what it's like to be friends with MGK, the benefits of therapy, hating sushi, Tim Burton, his aspirations to become a director, and dealing with the passing of a friend.

Plus, the genre-bending artist explains the full story of how his name came to be, why J. Cole is his inspiration, and more!

Every decade there's a genre or genres of music that thrive, and when I was growing up in the early and mid two thousands, artists like Eminem Nellie and missy Elliott were topping the charts in the rap scene. Let me work kid verses, while other names like blink one hundred and eighty two and good Charlotte, we're selling millions of albums in the pop punk genre. Small and while wrap to this day never slow down, pop punk did. You just really didn't hear it on the mainstream radio anymore. But history does always seem to have a way of repeating itself, and it seems like the genre that defined a generation, including me, might be on its way back. In the past few years, artists like machine gun Kelly have been bringing back pop punk full force, like with his two thousand and twenty album tickets to my downfall. And that's exactly what twenty three year old Michael Olmo, Aka e and Dior, is doing. Born in Puerto Rico in one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine, but growing up in Texas Ian grew up listening to pop punk names like paramour and rap as well, particularly emo rap. He's a big fan of juice world. He also loves writing poetry and, after being fired from a job at ups back in two thousand and nineteen, he's started to put beats to his words and uploaded the songs to Soundcloud, where his first track, cutthroat, wracked up over five million plays. I know got a fill in that I might blow even notice indistry is cut run out. I don't feel the same thing. These drugs drive me and sand. Soon after he moved to La and released his debut album, industry plants. By this point his music was mainly wrap with trap beats, but then he teamed up with Travis Barker of blank one hundred and eighty two and machine gun Kelly in April two thousand and twenty for the song sick and tired. It was a track filled with pop punk, from the guitar and drums, even the vocal structure. A few months later, he and fellow rapper golden released the song mood, and it took the world by storm. While you always in moved, don't try to play cold, playing by rules. Everything look you. It started at number one, it's been certified quadruple platinum and it was a hit all over the place. The Catchy Guitar riff and upbeat tone could easily be classified as some sort of rap rock or wrap pop, but I know there's an undeniable touch of pop punk stitched into the fabric of that song. But it's Ian's new album on two better things, which was released this past January, that has me so excited for the genre that I grew up...

...being obsessed with, because, while the album does have insanely good rap songs on it, it's the tracks like let you obvious and thought it was, that bring a fresh twist to a sound I haven't heard in the mainstream music world in way too long, all while seamlessly blending it with rap, his emotional lyrics and trap beats, resulting in a fresh take on an almost forgotten genre. Last Jason Angels. It's exciting to see what the newer generation of artists do to modernized dated Genres, and I have a feeling that, whether it's paired up with heavier music or rap or whatever, pop punk is coming back, and that really excites me. This is the spout podcast, where famous people spout off about more than what they're famous for. I'm Nick Major and my guest today is Eandor we've been doing? Oh Yeah, I've been working on getting my sleeved one. Oh and, dude, I so I saw your video, actually that you did like seventeen questions with seventeen magazine. Yeah, and in one of them you said a quote that I have in my arm, which is the world is yours. What the fuck? That's my favorite quote right now, where I'm at. I'll just tell them that the world is yours. Anything's possible, me too, from scarface. That's where I got it from. And tell me why. So I'm going to this I'm getting fitted for the sailing round of it, and I'm Tony Montana. Old just like walks past me. It's like what? At first I was like who is that? Like, I know who that is. You were like a paramon jacket, but oh yeah, I almost couldn't recognize what you know, dude, crazy the leege. I love that movie. That's and I just love that phrase of the world is yours, and when I heard you say that, I was like, he gets it. That's it. But, dude, I was driving down Hollywood, was actually head into Tommy's place and I took a wrong turn and it was last week and it was one of those moments where I was like, Oh, this is perfect, because I knew I was coming to chat with you. And then I went down I think it was Stanley, and I was on Stanley and sunset and then, like, I was looking left and right to check for cars and you were painted on the entire building side for us and worldwide, and I was just like, what the hell, that is sick. Honestly, that's crazy. said that, because I didn't even know that was there. Oh Dude, I have a video of it from what I went inside you to see what it looks like. Yeah, okay, let me pull this up really quick, because I've only seen pictures of it. It was sick and I was like, what are the odds that I'm about to be chatting with this dude? And then I just pulled up and saw this. That's the universe. So let me pull it up. Wow, someone painted I'm sure that it is. That was so good, though. So you're collabbing with them, are working with them, and then I also know that you've got the Vatality Line of the twelve line that you yeah, just the the Collab with the telly and then, for from C him I was the face...

...of the like spring line, no sick. That's awesome. This is pretty cool experience. Like floats to Germany for the first time and Nice. So cold, so cold, like we're like a UNICARIA or we're where were we in him braver? Yeah, Dude, I've felt cold, but I've never felt cold like that. Like I would walk outside to like smoke real quick and my hands that were just like cramping up. La's made me so like picky with weather because I'm from Reno, Nevada, which isn't near Vegas. It gets cold. They're like there's lots of snow. So I grew up snowboarding stuff, so like I love it, but now when I go back there on the Windester, I'm just like this is miserable. Where's my callis on? I just got into snowboarding to did you and I skate? Yeah, what's the transition like? So, I mean I skated pretty much like my whole childhood until I was like fourteen. I'll to move board away because I know because I was I skilly cot pipes and stuff in Virginia and I missed. I just get the spot called Mount Trash more if anybody watching this knows where that's at. But I miss calculated. I just did it air and I ended up in the center of the half pipe and I just body slam shoes flew off like knocked out. Woke up in the hospital broken ankles, about to say you're breaking US located ankle and my mom just staring at me like you're done. So I'll give you the look that you just knew you already n when your mom gives you that look, you're like a like I know what you're about to say. You don't even need to say it. But yeah, pretty much didn't skate after that. We ended a movie out of Virginia to so I kind of like ended that, but I wanted to snowboarding. thinking, though, I skate like I'm good, easy, so easy, Nah, like I mean to a certain extent, like the balancing and like all that stuff. Yeah, but I forgot that my feet are stuck to the board. So freedom. I did my three. I did like three jumps in a row. The first two were like good, I got a little bit of air and I felt like like the shit and I fully committed on the third one and I basically just like jumped and I just started leveling out like that. Land knows that. Yeah, like, Oh, helmet flew off. I when did? At least we were in a helmet. I mean, people don't do that. I'm like put on a helm at doct told telling my friend that want and then she split her head open on her friends board. Oh My, that's why you wear a helmet, because she fell on a jump her friend and know she fell and was at the top of it and they rode right into her head. And I was like I'm not being a jerk when I say to wear a helmet. Literally don't die so bad. There's like metal edging. Yeah, I know. So then cut through the snow and ice and yeah, that was rough. So you grew up in Texas after you moved right right. Well, I originally started in Puerto Rico, okay, as we were born. Yeah, I lived just I was like five or six. My Dad joined the navy and then come just moved around a lot, but I start off, I went Puerto Rico to Texas, to Florida, to Virginia and then we went back to Texas Nice, and then from Texas I came me and was a Corpus Christie yeah, see, and I had it my friend before this. But he doesn't know you, he said, but he does base for MoD and really, yeah, Joey alll was his name and we used to work at hot topic together. That's why I met him. And then so we kind of came up in the music world doing cool stuff together. And so since he's been doing base, I was like you have to know you, because I'm stopped by his place and I thought that could be sick,...

...but I he's from Corpus Christie as well. That's so funny. I said that was crazy. He's from Corpus to yeah, you know, that's why I hit him up today and he even hit me back. He's like, he was from Corpus. Seriously, like small world. That's like the first for me. I don't like yeah, don't ever hear by the people don't even know where Corpus is, like. So for someone to be there, out here like doing the thing, I I'm sure you'll cross passes, because I know what you're righting with Mont on, a couple weeks I was literally just on face on what the most second to go really after this. I'm going to go sky with dude. No, is that who you were talking with about skating? Yeah, Oh, sick. Maybe Joey'll be these joey skates. He's skates. Yeah, I'm sure he probably will. I'm gonna tell him that. I'M gonna say go with mad to. You'll see him. He's you'll recognize. I'm Asian Kid, tattoos from the neck down. Any please? Guitar, please, Bass for Mont Sonia. You have a girl who loose, like kind of like the Nimy girl. Oh, Joe, I don't know who your girlfriend is right now. He has several girlfriends from time this time. I'M gonna cut that part out because I don't know who's gonna Willi that. I will leave that out. Yeah, and get our boy caught up. Yeah, new album is out yes, on two better things. Absolutely love it, my dude. I've been following your work for for a long time and I love the title. With it, it sounds like you're leaving the past in the past, moving forward on to a two better things. And this album, though, from from your first stuff, from from industry to it, even just all the EPS you put out, so much damn music, it's hard to even remember. Yeah, I mean we're already working on the next one. Oh really, yeah, before I'm I'm trying to finish it before I leave on tour. Yeah, how, I mean toured on this one yet? No, cheese. I grew up a pop punk kid. So obviously, when I saw you were working like with Travis and then mgk, I was like this is this is going to be sick. There's so many different like genres in the album, from kind of pop punk mixing the emo rap yeah, type stuff, which which I love. So, boys, your approach musically for this thing, because it seemed to be so diverse in regards to the different genres right me musically, like this was the third album that I made before I put it out. Really Yeah, so there's two albums before that where I was one of the most fully hip hop. The other one was fully pop. Yeah, and then I was like no, yeah, could make my mind up, so I restarted again, and this was at a time in my life when I was like just going through a lot, you know, like growing up, like trying to figure out like who I am and like, you know, what my features going to look like or whatever. But, you know, musically I wanted to blend everything that was trying to do into one album because, like not only did I want to do that, but like I wanted to tell my story in it. I didn't care if there was hits it and care if there was like none of the stuff. Like I truly just wanted people to understand what was going on in my life. So that's why I named it on the better things and, you know, like from top to bottom, is cohesive. I wanted it all to tell the story, you know, and it did. To me, it didn't matter if it went from a hiphops on two rocks on like I think that the storyline is still there. So, you know, for me it's all the same. And I don't know, I've always had this problem where, like I'll have a studio session one day and I'll be making hiphop and then the next day I want to do rock. So like I have to go to like traviss see, my favorite band of all times, Blank Lady, to you,...

...and that's just so weird. Even here you say, yeah, I gotta go to Travis is when I have an idea for this tree. I have to you know, I hated to go to his or. I'm not shirking who John Feltman is. I know John filman very well, which, by the way, I was also reading the writing credits of your stuff, and you worked with my boy Kevin for a couple songs on the album as well. I Know Kay thrash from his he's an escape the fate. Did Yeah, and yeah, and I got to know him because I was on warped or for a couple summers with all the press, who I just saw you're on the cover of the back in September. So hell, yeah, but yeah, so your you. You've been working with a community of people that I know, which is sick. Feldman is my favorite producer of all time. Oh, man, did he's so good. Oh Yeah, I'll show you the stuff that you've been work on. Oh, I'd love to see you. Were going with fildy on some stuff. Yeah, my next thing was actually with him, no way, and Trevis, not travis on this one, but the second singles, which that is amazing. He Nick major here with the SPOUT podcast. And you know what, I enjoy good food, Sushi, maybe a tasty pasta, a fancy burger, you know whoo, and making my mouth water over here, all right. So no living being that should be eating stale, crunchy balls for every meal for the rest of their lives, even if they pee on the carpet sometimes. No, I'm not talking about my brother, I'm talking about our best friends in the world, our dogs. So check out this easy and healthy option that will have your dogs eating the way that they deserve. It's called the farmers dog it's healthy food with home meat and veggies steamed in human grade kitchens, so all those nutritional values are preserved. You tell them about your dog, they deliver a personalized, vet developed meal plan for as little as three dollars a day. And it's so easy because the box it will show up at your front door. Inside of it there's preportioned, ready to serve packs and you never need to worry about running out because they deliver them to you and your dog based on your schedule. Over two hundred million meals have been ordered from the farmer's dog and it's the easiest way to invest in your dog's health with fresh food. So get fifty percent off your first box of that fresh food by heading to the farmers Dogcom spout, and you get free shipping to again head to the farmers Dogcom spout spout to get that fifty percent off once again the farmers Dogcom spout. Who Doesn't love Taylor Swift? Whether you're a casual fan or a die hard swift e thirteen, a tailor swift fan podcast, is for you. We're breaking down every single tailor swift song, along with deep dives into every Easter egg and her best lyrics fust. We even have special episodes like swifty, where we cover breaking news, and Plow Nilia Street, where we dissect every extreme fan theory. Subscribe to thirteen, a Taylor swift fan podcast for free wherever you listen to podcast and look for new episodes every Tuesday. I know you you are into filmmaking and you didn't know what path you've to leap down, necessarily music, filmmaking, whatever, but one thing I love about your music videos is like they feel just as diverse as your music, like they're all so different fun. Yeah, I mean, whenever you know, I make the song, I like really want people understand that, like some music videos, is really what's going on in my...

...head while I'm making that song. Okay, you know, like I want them to understand what's going on and, you know, tell the story. So, like for a person that really only listened to like it the beat versus the lyrics, like when they watch the video, they could understand the song because, you know, I don't like some people listen to lyrics and some people listen to the beat and some people listen to both. But for those people that just only listen to the beat, then they can understand what's going on. It wasn't one of your new videos, but it shots in the dark. I love that video leaving the sky, but one thing in particular that I love in it. I'm a huge Oliver Tree Fan, all right, and I also I got to tell you I went to Oliver's House town interview him back in like October and when I got there the set up he had his do was he had a damn circus cut out that we stuck our heads for a chat like. I'm like, that's very oliver. Yea Are we doing today? Man, doing amazing. How are you? I'm great. I love this backdrop, or this front drop that we are behind right now. It's kind of a throwback, I feel, like your childhood days, almost because you sure you grew up involved in in the circus of it, right. Yeah, that's amazing that you did some homework here, because a lot of people don't know that. I know you did a version of let me down. Yes, you did a version of that with poor stacy. Don't make me so much. I noticed in that video his Homie, his alien pal, little ricky, got into a firefight with you on him, which was so sick. Yeah, did. He pulled up to the video sho'd use like eight feet tall. He's a tall guy. He's a really tall guy. He doesn't say many words, actually doesn't really say any words. He's just kind of they're just like waves. Is like long fingers at you and you're going to try to collap with him in the future on a new track, you think? Is that some of that you're interested in? Who Oliver? Yeah, yeah, I love all of it, and little ricky, whatever that happened. I've been a huge fan of all the versions. Like you know, he's first atart popping off and like one thing I'm a huge fan of. Like of his his videos talk about production because he, like you, is into filmmaking. Dude, he and he's so good. They are so oh I forget which one. I think it's hurt. He went to the Ukraine to film it. Documentaries. Right, no, I didn't see so sick. Yeah, Bro, I don't know, like something about his videos and like he always has like this like cool dynamics of them, like which like stuff that you shouldn't be put together, but he puts it together so well. Yeah, where? And you wouldn't even think it could and you won't even think of it together, but I love it. That dudes a genius. I love all retreat of all of it. Yeah, so I know that growing up, poetry was a thing that you're into writing. That kind of led you inadvertently to recording a song that popped off. And me, I guess I don't know what it's like to be able to have the expression of writing stuff down to get your emotions out. I started going to therapy finally last summer and then just being able to be vulnerable and talk about my emotions. I can attest now to how beneficial that is. Yeah, but that's kind of what you do when you're writing songs, and especially with on two better things. You've always written like...

...deep emotional personal stuff, but it was deeper in this album. Yeah, and what's that outlet like for you? I always say that, you know, my music is my form of therapy. Yeah, and the beautiful part about it is that I can go into the studio feeling good, feeling like doesn't matter. I make a song and it's feels really good to know that whenever I put it out, there's people out there that resonate and relate to the like song itself, and just makes me feel like I'm not alone, and I think that's like the best part about like what I do is my favorite part. You know that. And you know the performing, seeing the fans in person, you know. Finally, because I am like suit in person, I'm super chill, you know, I'm laid back, but when I get on stage, I like black out and like I'm not don't even remember what happened. No, I don't like truly, I really don't like Gassa manager, like after the show, like I'm hyped. I'm hype. I'm like, you know, punching my band members, like let me know what I'm going on, Bro, you just got off. Yeah, like Oh, like for real, like Um, and I'll get off stage and then like on the lay like will be like, Oh my God, like you just fuck. I show up, like yeah, it was school, school, like like let's get on the buses, go to next home, my sleep. Yeah, like well, I mean I usually be chilling this this summer around on the tour buses and stuff. You know, we're watching movies. We're not like Oh, nice, too hard, right on. But yeah, I'll watch the video of the show and that's when I'm like like what the Holy I just did that. You know, I'd seen being in front of, in the presence of Tenzero people and I'm singing to these people and I see people crying singing right back to you know. I mean like like that is like the most beautiful thing about all this to me. HMM. And I'm sure because so much of your career, I feel like, really established itself during a shutdown world, right. So it's got to be awesome to finally be able to hit the state. Oh Man, I'll never forget the first time I got like perform mood, you know, and in front of people for the first time I was at all the and that was my first time performing in over like well, basically almost two years, you know, like so I just remember as far as I could see there's people everywhere. There's people in the trees rocking out, like I see leaves falling off the trees because the dude, you know, it's a good show. Dude. It was like it was insane. I I'll never forget that. But yeah, Dude. I got to ask about mood in, though, because that's a track that popped off and it's one of those songs were like when, I'd imagine you guys are in the studio, you're like this thing is gonna be hot. When I said a feel out of ash so was in a filing Bady, I am not dad. It's not all you want from me. I just want to company. No, no, I mean we knew it was good, but like really, like we're chilling my one bedroom apartment. It's me Golden Omer halftime and we're just like playing called...

Judy. We decided to make a song, makes the song go back to playing called duty like and then like, I remember like a week later, like amrits me of He's like Yo, this song is like gasps. I like. Also, yet is hard, you know, like like let's put it out whatever, but none of us really expected it to go number one. You know, like that's just something that the biggest songs. You don't expect them to be the biggest songs. Like, I mean juice world didn't like lucid dreams, and like what that did. WHO's you didn't like legs Sotor life, he hated it, you know. So like those, like those big songs, like you never really know until they come out. Yeah, which is crazy. And speaking of for your you were talking about having lyrics that people can listen to and relate, I gotta say. And listening to your new album, like let you, for example, for me, I'm like, let me put that on repeat. Is that the circus music video? Yes, that you. That video is so sick. Thank you this time. I know, I know, I know, Goy go is making me sad. I love the intro with the miniatures. Yeah, it goes into the thouse. That was all Sebastian. I can't even take credit for that, you know, like we had the I had like the circus idea. You don't want to because like my whole thing, you know, is like that song is about letting somebody go that I met in a circus, which is la to me. That's a good way to put it. Everybody's wearing costumes out here. You don't really know who people are and they're all trying to put on a show, you know. So for me, I was letting that person go in this world that I'm living in, and that's like where what I wanted to do for the video, but the ministers and stuff. Sebashian so sick. Yeah, and rest in peace to him. He recently just passed away. Oh Wow. Yeah, so shout out to him. Due to use, use, super talented. He's the one person that really understood what was going on in my head. HMM, you know, he he'd come up, come to me with ideas, M for my songs in my usually I don't let people do that, you know, like I don't even send my music out, but to him I would always send everything to him because, like, I knew when I could trust him into like he just creatively was like that guy for me. Yeah, and I sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's a Bummer, but I'm glad that you guys will at least have those, those memories and just those pieces of work to reflect on and moving forward. I know that you DAB on filmmaking yourself and are interested, so hopefully he taught you stuff along the way. He definitely has you to this. Howd me a lot of stuff, honestly, and dedicating this, my next single, to him. Oh No, I'm editing it and, you know, kind of writing the treatment the way that he would think. HMM. So I'm pretty excited about that. That's awesome. That's going to be special. Yeah, and I need to ask this song heavy at the start of it, because my name is nick and it sounds like at the start sunning says Nick, you're so stupid. Is that what it says? Yeah, your Steve Place that I go and really want to be. That's that's Nick Meares Tag. That was that was his girlfriend. Yeah, that's so funny. I'm so sorry. I wasn't.

...me. I'm not the smartest guy, but I heard that I was like it, does it sound like she's saying Nick, you're stupid, because I'll take it. But what's forever track on the new album? Sure changes from time to time. Yeah, it really does. You know, right now I love I might but you know, for like a personal song, I love obvious. Yeah, you know, because I don't think I've ever said this, but I can. You know, when I wrote that Song I was that's when I was really fucked up and, you know, just on a bunch of stuff. And in the beginning of the song I'm talking to God. You know. Now, can you hear me? When I call your name? It's kind of scared. It's like I'm calling you dad. So like I'm talking to God in the beginning and you know, throughout that song, like I was just picturing my whole life. You know, I had this so I was supposed to shoot a two video short film with Sebastian for hopeless, romantic and obvious, and we had this whole treatment, but like for obvious, basically going through all the phases in my life, and it was like because that's what I saw when I was recording the song. But yeah, I mean that song is just super personally me, I love it so with I might, because I know what is it de or Tursday cover. My deal says I'm to see on my full life. I do this some myself. Every time I said I won't, but I'm we're the name and do or come from. So the indoor came as soon as I left my hometown and I got hit up some moves to La n's my mental name, and I wanted a fresh start. I hated who I was in my hometown. Okay, I didn't want to have this small town men tell it anymore. So, while I was on the plane, I took my middle name and I took a brand that I could never Ford, which was your obviously, and yeah, for I first, you know, like it was weird. You know, I had to get used to being called Ian and I didn't think that it was like going to work, but it ended up working out. So, you know, we use the in today. Yeah, if I noticed the writing credits, you use your name. Yeah, was that. It's just for me. Okay, cool, you know like that. He's still there, UH Huh. Yeah, so, and he's the one that's telling this story. He's just the one bocally spreading into the world. That totally makes sense. I think that's awesome. Were you ever worked or kid? Did you ever go to work to her? Now, my parents were super strict growing up. Never, actually, I didn't go. Never been to a concert until the day I performed. No, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, Dude, like, I remember being I'm that stays in like just like overpowering feeling of like fans screaming and that dis like history after that. That's crazy. I did not realize that, but what a way to get kick off into the live music world. And I mean there was my first tour, like the first showings is in Atlanta, and never forget it. It's probably like thousand people there, but like they...

...were just screaming and I just remember getting like overwhelmed, like I started like freaking out, like I want to just run out there, and I didn't. You know, that's your name officially. Yeah, like I didn't. I didn't know what I was going to do when I walked out there, but I knew I was going to run out. They're like I wanted to just run and just jump straight into the crowd. But yeah, I'll never forget it. You that I was. That was a beautiful moment for me. That's awesome. And I got asked about your relationship with him, gk, because he's killing it and that and that kind of bringing the pop punk world back a bit. And you guys, you've worked a lot together now, like, I think, on three separate releases, two of yours and then on tickets to my downfall. Blows in my mind trying to figure it out, but I'm stuck in a dry I guess we'll start again. I've fen losing my mind trying to figure it out, but I'm stuck in this house. I am my only friend. What's that relationship like with him, and how's that gone in the past few years? He's first of all, he's an amazing dude, like from the second that I met him, you know, like we just clicked, and I remember like the the first week we met each other. Three days later were in a mall skating like hits skate like all in stairs, like getting chased by security guards, like and it was just like, I don't know, you like quickly became one of my best friends, and he's just like, I don't know, like musically and like physically, he's just so like it's what, like the way he acts on cameras, the way he does some person yeah, there's no like he's not acting anything, you know, like he's that's him. What's trippy like in person? trippy's exactly is he? Yeah, that dude seem so cool and like fun. Okay, hard see if I areka Ark. He'll he'll come off as like like Oh, like you just like to himself, like his eyes. I was like, but once you get to know him he's like Super Nice and he's actually really funny. And then that tours coming up, one with MGK trippy. He's on it, I think as well. Yeah, he's doing a couple days, so cool. And then Avril Lavine, and then a band that I know, Paris. They're they're going on and out as well, and that's going to be a wild tour. Travis Barker jumping out on it as well. I'm very excited for that. It's gonna be my first arena tour, so should be pretty exciting. And you know, I remember vividly every day. This is like junior here. I think two thousand and fourteen. Yeah, junior year was when forest hills came out, Jake's album, and he dropped his documentary and every dad come home and watch him perform Madison Square and I would didn't even like know that I wanted to be an artist yet. You know, I obviously like I loved everything about him, like I loved that he could tell story and all that stuff. It hadn't hit me yet that that's what I wanted to do, but I would go home and I'd stand there like as I was as little kid playing xbox, like this close to the TV. Good your xbox Guy, I hope still thank Um. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're...

...gonna have to cut it okay now, but Um yeah, dude, loud, like come on, not watch it on repeat. Just like him performing, and I remember like the set was him sitting on this hometown roof. Is is hometown, like old house. He made the whole model of it on stage and you would just sit on the roof and perform and like the it just it just hit me in a way. They like I've never been like, I've never been touched like that by music. So, like I's don't know, wash you watch it, watching over and over again, Madison Squire Guard and I would just like dream, like what does it feel like to be in front of that? And now on this tour we sold it out two nights in a row. So it be the first time that I gets actually experience that and I'm super excited. That's rat. That's a great milestone and that's going to be a special, special moment for you. Yeah, I mean I have this like dream board where I like all right, all the things that I want to do, and in like two thousand and twenty three or two thousand and twenty four was when I said I would perform medicine to own. You're right, a schedule. had a schedule, Jude. What else is on that board that you want to try to accomplish? Anything, if it's not to private? I mean, you know, I want to have a clothing line. You know, when I you have such good style. He like, seriously, I'm just in here wearing a great shirt. You Got Freaking Mickey and mini doing whatever on your shirt and stuff. But I feel like that's right in line, especially because you've been working with some brands already that just said. Like it makes sense. Um, I've always been a huge fan like clothes. I'd spend my whole check, you know, when I would work. She that wasted to work. I had a bunch of jobs, like my last job was ups and every single time I got that check it would be gone because there was a pair of sneakers or a pair of jeans or shirt that I wanted and I needed to get it. So like to have this platform now, like it's kind of open me up to like really have my like style the way I want it. And, you know, yeah, one day I want to like start that clothing brand. Maybe, I know, acting down the road, yeah, which you you give really good performances, even in your videos, which I'm sure you have a lot of fun with as yeah, that's what's so cool about how diverse they are is they're such different settings for you to kind of almost be different personalities and characters. Yeah, and the crazy thing is is like, as a little kid, you know, I've been in the back to my mom's car down I was tell it I'm moving to La, I'm moving to La, and her famous quote was you better get a good job, and I'm like no, mom, be actor, I'm gonna be active. I'm the huge movie star, and she's like okay, like it, that's what you want to do. So like, you know, having that dream as a kid to like, now that you know I'm not acting yet yet, you're a little busy to doing some cool stuff in the means that, you know, like the music came out of nowhere. So, you know, having the music and like being able to that's why I direct my videos. Yeah, which one was if you directed basically everything from on to better things. And you know, I'd like directed like here, like I've always getting my input whenever I have my song. I don't go to a director and just give them the song, like here. You got the idea in your head, you know, how you send the song with the treatment that I have already, like okay, make this makes sense. It's...

...like that's what I've always done, but like from on to better things and on like that. That's whenever I really started direct everything, like hands on, like doing the shot, going back to the chair, watching the take. Okay, no, let's do it again. Move the camera here, like our less, change the Lens, you know, like just like like finally like getting to like it, have it exactly how I like your visioned. Yeah, how I dreamed. And you know, the beautiful thing about having the music now is that I get to act in the videos exactly, you know, and it helps get my my confidence and like just like the the whole thing down for like the acting. And Yeah, you know, the plan is to like maybe in like next year, maybe this year. You know, I've been doing auditions. Oh, have you? Yeah, I've been nice doing a couple. I I've gotten a few that you know I had them and I didn't want that to be my debut. You know, I want like my first debut and the acting world to be, you know, a big deal. And you know that's just me being me, you know, I just that's what I want. Sorry enough. Yeah, so, you know, maybe this year, next year, I'll have something out or you know, it'll be in the works. But from acting I want to just be a director. That's great my life. So what what if you were to direct films? I mean what were you growing up watching? The nere the something along the lines of where you're like that's the kind of movie that I want to be involved with. Him Burton was my guy growing up as Tommy's guy. He's this Bro, I mean, you know, like he's the reason why, you know, I have Um, you know, a bunch of kids signed to me in creative you know, and now this one claymation kid that I love because he reminds me of Tim and, I don't know, just like watching his films growing up. Obviously now before Christmas, like the whole claimation movie is so good, but like my all time favorite was Edward scissor hands. You know, that's like where the crazy hair came from and like, Oh, yeah, like, I just like I wanted to be in Oh, visually that movie is it's not a utiful so cool, beautiful. Yeah, I mean see that Johnny Depp is who I portrayed to be. Yeah, I can. In a couple of years, you need to get him on a song. He's always I here plan. I think he does music like Marilyn Manson and stuff. Yeah, you give you US crazy stuff. So when anything else? You got plan of the immediate future? Sounds like new music. There's a tour coming up. You're just keeping busy. Yes, trying to stay busy, you know. Yeah, I mean that's the best way to keep it because if I'm not moving around and I'm not doing anything, I'm thinking, when I'm thinking, you don't want to be around me. No, no, but that that's awesome. Dude. I would suggest. I saw that you hate Sushi. Well, okay, all right, see, she hit me out. Yeah, I'm hard to want to hear you out with this topic. My my girlfriend's been trying to ease me into it. I was in Miami. It was whatever they're called words like cooked and Cook. Surera yeah, yeah, edits some pro I liked it. Okay, it was goods a start, easy act. I'm easy into him. I wouldn't say I hate Sushi, though. It just kind of freaks me out just a little bit,...

...like we were shoving our faces with Sushi yesterday, like I don't know. I've never been like a cold food type of guy's like that's the one thing that I'm easy and into. I like a hot meal, HMM, like every time. But and it's also raw. So that's you're gonna be hungry. We need to stop talking about it. But, dude, you gotta try some temper rolls, baked salmon. Bake Salmon. That sounds gas yeah, it. I likes seafood. I like seafood. I just like I'm scared of the raw food. It's just a little bit now until they're no, friend uses you in enough. Next chat you're gonna work in her way into it, will bring Sushi in to the next chat and we'll just beating at the whole time. It'll be awesome. But, dude, I'm really stoked for all the success that you've had. It's awesome. I appreciate you talking Dude, congrats on all the better things and exactly on the better things make two thousand and twenty two a great year. Thank you, man. It's nice to meet too. WHOO, anything else we want to cover? Did that pretty will take it. Um. I mean from my fans that are watching new single on the way. We're about to shoot the video for it. You'RE gonna be directing this one? Yes, I will be, and yeah, I'm excited to see you guys on tour. To See more of our conversation with eand or search spout podcast on IG and twitter, or see this entire podcast. It's about podcast, on Youtube. Next Week Camilla Cabayo spouts off. I want the opposite of technology in the sense that, and I actually am doing this for a performance that I've got coming up. Stand I wanted to be freaking outside in The Sun Light, in the with their are natural world. Like I feel like we're so disconnected and it's like, yeah, technology can be really cool, but I also just want to be fascinated by nature herself. Plus, coming soon to this voot podcast, Harry styles is about. PODCAST is presented by Alpha media and created by Phil Becker, about.

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