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Episode 69 · 2 months ago

Charlie Puth

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It’s an undeniable fact that Charlie Puth is a certified hitmaker. Charlie, who’s last studio album was 2018’s "Voice Notes," has spent the past couple years teasing a new album to his almost 20 million followers on Tik Tok. Dropping snippets of his upcoming songs has created a fever pitch in fans clamoring for new music, sending recently released singles like "Light Switch" and “Left and Right” straight up the Billboard charts.

Now the wait is finally over with the highly anticipated release of his 3rd studio album "Charlie," where the pitch-perfect musician is back with catchy ear-worm hits. In this episode of the Spout Podcast Charlie talks with Host Erik Zachary about his musical influences, using everyday sounds to make hits and why he hopes to see his name in lights on Broadway.

It's an undeniable fact that Charlie Pooth is a certified hit maker, whether it's lending his talents to the record shattering song See You Again with Wis Khalifa. It's been a long bay without you, my friend. And I'll tell you all about it when I see you've come along away from where we beget we're starting, We'll tell you all about it. Where does she again? Tell you where She? Or his smash hit we Don't Talk Anymore featuring Selena Gomez. You don't talk anymore. We don't talk anymore. We don't talk anymore like we you. Charlie, whose last studio album was two thousand Eighteens Voice Notes, has spent the past couple of years teasing a new album to fans on TikTok. Hello, My album Charlie, that I've been making on TikTok for over a year is out October seven, and here's the track listing. Track one, track two, Track three, Track four, Track five, Track six, Track seven, Track eight, you Haven't Heard Before, Track nine, Tracktown, Almost There, Track eleven, and track twelve You Haven't Heard Yet. Dropping snippets of his upcoming songs has created a fever pitching bands, clamoring for new music, sending recently released singles like Left and Right straight up the Billboard charts. Stairs. Now the weight is finally over with the...

...highly anticipated release of Charlie, where the pitch perfect musician is hoping to show fans that you can take old music influences that you might not think would pair together, mix it and create something entirely new. This is a spout podcast where famous people spout off about more than what they're famous for. And today that's Charlie pooth Here's Eric Zachary, Charlie. Yes, I'm adjusting the album not not you, So that's going to be an awkward thing. But yeah, that's sorry. There's there's a lot of Charlie's Yeah, the dog, the dad, the album. Now it's just Charlie pooth Man, how are you. I'm good, feeling very good that people finally get to hear this. I got an early listen, and I hope this comes across as genuine as I mean it. It's extremely good, extremely extremely good. I'm not trying to like be that interview that's like, oh my god, I'm talking to you, like I want to make it sound like as amazing problem. I'm genuinely really impressed, and I like a lot of your stuff, but I mean all nine tracks that I hadn't heard prior to that listen blew me away. Truly, you're making my day right now. That's so nice of you. Thank you all right, that's wow. I don't even know what to say. Thanks. Charlie be Quiet though, Like that's the one that stood out the most. Charlie be Quiet, don't make a son. You got to lower the noise a little bit. Now. If she's not here in love, she's gonna run run away. Man, Don't let her know that you're in love or she'll run away. As as an early thirty year old trying to navigate dating, and I'm like, oh my god, I've been in that situation so many times, I know, because it's like you have to like play it cool but not at the same time, you have to show that you're interested, but like not who interested. It's like such...

...a slippery slope. It's slippery slope. You may entertain me for a second. My one review title or headline would be Charlie draws from the last four decades, what each decade of music got right and modernized it in a very melodically pleasing way. Let's dive into it a little bit, right, so you have the intro, I immediately get like van Halen jump vibes a little bit this by the way, hopefully like are you but are you a musician yourself? Like I, I've been involved in music and music production for a very long time. So this is okay, this makes sense because you're blowing me away with these continued Sorry, I just needed and I just needed to know. And this one's gonna be this one's gonna be an eccentric guest here and probably nowhere, and you're accurate, but you know, and Charlie be quiet, and some of the other tracks, like you know, um marks on my neck, A lot of the staccato hits that the very um prompts. Uh like that kind of vibes reminds me a lot of like end sync, no strings attached, like two thousands. Uh man, it's it's it's I wish I could do even a ten percent of what you do because it's what I would create. Wow wow wow. Yes, this is just so just to let you know. When I hop on and do these promo runs, it's usually me on the other end, trying so hard in an easy way to get the point across that, yes, this album, I took all of the music that I grew up listening to, like no strings attached, like Van Halen. The person on the other end usually gets confused because those two have nothing to do with each other. But I'm just trying to you understand that I'm trying to drive the point that all music is equal, everything is recycled from embarred from each other. I tried to do that on...

...it sounds like I accomplished it because you are. You got it right away, and I'm trying to prove the point that music can be mushed together and something brand new can come about from it. Yeah the first time for everything record, sure, something personal that went on in my life. Lyrically sure, but musically fastest hell would take it for sure. Ah eighties Yeah, everybody does that. But Van Helen jump same since that was I mean, it sounds like you should just do this promo run with me because you're able to eloquently explain these things better than I. It's a very good album that makes me so happy. Thank you. I hope that people can take it in like you're taking it, and it makes I think they will and if they don't, then they're wrong. Wrong. If you're one of Charlie's nearly twenty million followers on TikTok, then you already are fully aware of Charlie's gift of turning in everyday sound into a hit song. Like the flip of a light switch, there's something missing. There should be like a weird sound effect, just a random noise or something like that. This light on. Oh my god, the talent he's explored even in the early days of his career. Let's go back to where we talked very briefly five six, seven years ago. No way you remember this is there's like a two minute red carpet thing, right. I remember saying to myself, a very young version of myself, like I don't want to ask him what everyone else is asking him. I And this is kind of before, way before the TikTok thing. Before a lot a lot of maybe non Pooth fans knew that you could hear sounds the way that you do. And we went into like a three minute loop talking about Windows XP startups sounds and guess what I watched this morning?...

Videos on Windows XP and windows. It's like nothing has changed. And you know what now that I see face two voice, I do remember that two thousand and fifteen, it like but it was madness behind stage. It was completely different music industry at the time, especially for me, because nobody really knew that I was even that I could even play piano. They knew you was the again see you again guy, or like attention or had just come out, you know, like that kind of stuff. You just want a tuition. Yeah, that's really all that they and I don't blame anybody. That's all they knew me by. And now the fact that I get to talk to you about my third album and the intricac scenes of all the music that makes me so happy for Charlie to be such a star in the pop world. It's fascinating that some of his music influences also include bands like Metallica and Mega Death. Before I get away with my interviewer self and asking too many questions, what do you want to get off of your chest that you haven't be able to talk about a public setting yet, I be everything that we've you've said, you've brought up so far that I'm able. This is the Dichotomy, smudged together album the that you take a record like light Switch. You listen to Chop Suey, a record that came out in two thousand and five by System Yeah, produced by Rick Rubin. It's almost like too fast in an area, and then it goes halftime. And I was always fascinated with how fast that record wasn't how it was able to maintain its energy by going halftime. Every time that I say I'm gonna look way, it sounds like your hardest slowing down. I didn't. I was inspired by records like that were from like Mega Death and Metallica, that we're almost too fast, but maintained an energy when they went when they slowed down. So I took that facet and then take something in light Switches. Take things that I know, take things that I am not super familiar with, but I want to learn more about and stick it together, and then outcomes light Switch.

Why you turn me on the left switch? When you move anybody round and round? I don't want to find this you know how to make me switch on your left and right same situation. I listened to records that like I want to hold your hand, where the vocals are on one side of the speaker the entire time, and that was due to recording limitations that they had of eight tracks. Why not use that to my advantage and make it something lyrically interesting that can almost when the listener closes their eyes, hopefully not when they're driving almost pitch you're a music video and it's almost like interactive and it scratches their brain. Got so take things that I'm kind of not super familiar with, like using panting and music, but the typical guitars that Charlie always uses together, and then you get left and right. I did that ten more times after that. Well, it's it's funny because it's a lost art using the stereo space, and now it's what's old is new again. You hear about spatial audio and it's like, this was an idea thirty forty years ago because it had to be to get enough tracks on an album or a song. And I often wonder how many people have heard left and right in passing, not in a stereo output, in a mono output, and they're like, oh, I don't really get why they just keep that going it back and forth. That was a concern of mine the day came out actually, like, what if someone's right speaker and their car is broken, someone's going to tell him no listen to. I want multiple listens, Like I want people to be like, wait, what exactly did I not like initially?...

And now I'm kind of intrigued by it. That's what I am going for for every one of these songs. There's a record called Smells Like Me that's track five, and it sounds like the epitome of two thousand and five. I went through a break up a couple of months ago, and I'm like, I bet it still smells like me. Hell yeah, it does. And that smell would be Abercrombie Fierce or whatever exactly, like way too much as Body Sprayer, whatever we were doing back then. I'm so glad you understand this stuff what I was trying to emote visually. That's really good. I'm glad I got it partially right. And I'm I'm not just like shooting the dark here, You're right on the bowl. A large part of a musician's job isn't just creating music. It's creating music that lends itself to visual performance art as well. While most artists are happy with just a music video, Charlie has his eyes set on something bigger. It was funny though, able to listen, I saw Charlie quiet, and initially you think, Okay, it's someone telling Charlie to be quiet. No, it's himself telling himself to be quiet. All of the titles kind of have that duality to them a little bit. Yeah, there is humor kind of spread throughout the album. Just having a yearn to make this album interactive. Maybe I'll make a Broadway play one day, because you hear a lot of like a light switch sounds and kiptoeing. You hear that in Broadway plays. There's cues. Yeah, yeah, they're cues. There's a lot of pop sonic cues in this album that are active in a way. I probably have to get it two more albums out before I. In the future, we'll we'll approach Broadway. But yeah, but what what what spear of Broadway? Do you think we would touch? Something about a misunderstood musical guy or girl role and how they...

...perceive sounds around them and how they're able to take what they hear and in turn make something that is personal to them, thus being personal to other people. And it's entitled Charles Puke definitely not an autobiography. Chuckles Puke. There we go. I'm mad. I didn't I come up with that first. Okay, So I'm really glad you said that. You know, you hope people see the visuals that you're writing this with two because while I would love to claim to be even a level of the savant of perfect pitch and whatnot that you have and you possess, I do have that when it comes to two visuals, to filmmaking, to videos. You know, I could walk around and I can I see myself talking with my friend, and I see it from a third angle camera. I'm like, okay, what if the bee chem is here? So I often think, do you have that with anything else outside of the music world, um, where you're inner creative really just jumps out? Maybe something with I mean, I film all these talks myself. I do, maybe not as strong as you. I I have a pretty strong, finalized idea of the way something should be blocked, and like the timing and the editing is so important. I don't know maybe know how to feasibly make it look the best like I do in pro tools. When it comes to just sound, maybe convey that to somebody who's technically really good. You got that like this needs a beat, This needs a beat, hold, hold, hold and cut. You know that kind of thing, So do you do that? You scream at your Netflix too, where you're like that was funny, not because of the joke, but because they held it for an extra two seconds. Absolutely, I mean you watched, there would be you think about there would be no Simpsons or no Family Guy without movies with Leslie Nelson and David Zuckerman directed like The Naked Gun, where the timing was so like remember them. The beginning of Airplane maybe even a better. The left lane is for loading and docking only. Please use the right lane if you're picking up and the overhead speakers start getting in an argument...

...like a like a disgruntled life and and married man. They're just arguing over the loudspeakers. The very beginning of airplane renzol has always been a remoading at onquoting. There's never stopping it on point resolve. Don't tell me which zone is for stopping and which zone is formoting. Somebody, don't start off with your white zong again, it's just things like that are absolute genius. And I think I've always taken comedic cues like that and somehow have transformed it into music using and while most artists are still struggling to find their voice on social media platforms like TikTok, Charlie has carved out his own lane in a way that he says makes him feel like he can show his real self. I think, you know, not that it was impossible to do that before TikTok, but I think TikTok definitely lets you convey it in a very um authentic way as opposed to like, maybe someone didn't get what you were trying to do on a track five years ago kind of thing for everybody to TikTok talk has, you know, amongst all its controversy, it really has allowed people on the Internet to show their real self. It's allowed me to show my real self. I can feel that this is the most I've had the most ears on my music as of recently, because I'm just being myself, which is again what this album is. It's myself literally, it's your name. Yeah, I hope it's not that that would be a weird one to go. Third party on you did that. I mean, you can only hear from the same person so many times, but I really hope that that that shows through, like this is gonna be I'll find boy fall record is what my boy, my buddy and I've been calling it find I'm gonna quote you on that. That's really u Two last questions, just because I gotta throw them in. One, what's the question you want to put to bed? What are you tired of being asked? I want people to stop wondering why I post what I post that has nothing to do with music. I just I work out, like sue me. I'm gonna I thank you for saying that because I feel, you know, we we hear a lot about body...

...positivity and sometimes it's easy for guys to forget that includes us too. But yeah, man, you work out, show it up. Hell yeah, who cares? These training sessions are expensive. I'm not keeping all you're not choke and you're in l A too. That's really expensive. Last question, one fun question. I'll throw it in there because I did hopefully get a little bit of the end sync thing right. What's what's your favorite end sync song of all time? Oh? My god, there Okay. At the very end of No Strings Attached, there is a record called I Thought She Knew, and I think it's one of the most genius put together vocal song. That's the one that Chris leads on right with the falsetto yes, and and Justin does a couple of leads to all acapella. There's a little bit of an intro that I actually interpretated on per based on my last album Voice Notes, with my completely acapella song with Boys two Men This Is Not Goodbye. Credited the songwriter on that as well. So that's it. That's there. You go. You picked up on my admiration for in sync, dude, so what what you can do sonically? That's I grew up and it was my first concert, so you know, I care up learning that choreography and everything. Then, but awesome. We'll hopefully get a chance to meet up soon and we can nerd out over and sync not waste other people's time about our insane knowledge of tracks seven, eight, nine, tens of No Strings Attached. You're very smart. I like how your brain works, and I really am disappointed that all of the rest of the interviews that I have to do today aren't going to be this. Yeah, I'm gonna quote you on that. There we go get you get fine boy fall and I'll take...

...that, Charlie, dude. Hopefully we hang soon. I appreciate the time and congrats on this record. Man's truly thank you, Eric, and very good to see again. And I really wised to get the questions and the compliments. To see more of our conversation with Charlie Pooth, search Spout Podcast on i G or Twitter, or at spout podcast dot com. Be sure to subscribe to the Spout Podcast on your favorite podcasting platforms and join us in two weeks. As Little nos X spouse off, I never went to like concerts roaring up or even like now, I've probably been to one concert. So it's really sick to see people like, oh my god, this is my favorite concert ever or like stuff like that. I'm like, well, actually, really like you know, what have you seen? Have you seen like a Beyonce concert. This episode of the Spout Podcast is presented by Alpha Media, hosted by Eric Zachary, written and narrated by Tam Rida, produced by Mark Long, and edited and created by Phil Becker Bound.

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