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Episode 22 · 9 months ago

Billie Eilish

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

With the recent release of her 2nd studio Album, “Happier Than Ever”, and an upcoming concert special, Billie Eilish is back bigger than ever and ready to pen the next chapter of her career.

In episode 22 of the Spout Podcast, Billie spouts off on learning to trust others, finding beauty in collaboration, the double-edged sword of social media, and more. 

...imagine asking your brother to help record an original song for your dance class. He brings you a track that his band's been working on, but asks you to sing on it instead you posted on Soundcloud and 24 hours later, your inbox is flooded with emails. That song is going viral. That is how 13 year old Billy pirate baird O'connell became Billie Eilish. Born To a creative family. Billie Eilish knew from a young age, she wanted to pursue arts professionally, homeschooled along with her brother, Phineas. Billy was involved in a variety of creative outlets growing up, the primary of which was dance in November of 2015 after a series of bad luck injuries and being unable to dance on her ankle. Billy's dance teacher asked her to contribute by creating a song for the class to choreograph too and well into the song we now know as Ocean Eyes.

After the song racked up hundreds of thousands of listens in just days, things began to go into overdrive for Billy and Phineas. Within a month they had a manager two months and a and r deal and by March of 2016 the backing and support needed to release a fully produced music video with the Soundcloud release of Billy's second single, six ft under It was clear what her and her brother had experienced previously wasn't a fluke. She officially signed with Interscope Records in the summer of 2016. Just nine months after first posting Ocean Eyes to the internet on august 11th, 2017. After a year of learning the ropes of her newfound breakout fame, Billy released her debut ep, Don't Smile at Me, which would reach number 14 on the US billboard 200 chart. She would spend the next few months supporting her ep with back to back, headlining tours, continuously releasing new singles while on the road...

By November of 2018 at 17 years old, Billy was placed on the Forbes top 30 UNDER 30 list now. Rather than use that headline to promote and release a new album, Billy opted to continue with the format that have been working for her releasing a new single every few months. This allowed each release time to breathe and become a hit one after another. You should see me in a car, you know, when there's nothing changed. Billie Eilish finally released her first full length studio album When We All fall asleep, Where do we go on March 29th 2019 and although it included several tracks that received mass success, there was one song in particular that would go on to win both record and song of the year at the 2020 Grammy Awards. This year, Billy released her second album, happier than ever, an album that was already a success prior to release with over one million, pre adds the album would become the most pre saved album in the history of Apple music and with that...

...kind of jumping off point, it's no surprise that the album debuted at number one and has remained there since My name is eric Zachary. This is the spot podcast where famous people spout off about more than their famous for and today, that's Billie Eilish. Hello there, how are you? I'm just fine. How you doing good? I bet it's quite the week, the anticipation, excitement ready, yep billy, I got to ask first and foremost, right, so happier than ever. I just saw an interview literally today where you said this is the first album that you felt like it just kind of made itself, it was just like so easy. So is this a little bit different as you get ready to release it? Is it kind of like uh vibe where you're like, I'm not as nervous as usual, or is all that out the window? You're still nervous? I wasn't nervous um up until the internet made me nervous, I was feeling great. I mean, I was like, so confident and excited and like,...

...couldn't feel good about it, and then the internet just went err err into my insecurity, but it's okay. You recently said, you know, you stop looking at, you know, negative comments are just comments in general, like, I can't even imagine just a little bit of level that I experience with that and then you times a million, Like, I totally get where you're coming from. So do we have like, a routine when you release an album, Like, is there like a wake up stay disconnected from everything certain food you eat is something that's going on? I'm it's funny you ask because I'm literally right in this moment trying to figure out what to do because the issue is, and you know, I said that but at the same time I'm really bad at sticking to that I want because I want to see the good things, I really want to see the people that are affected in a good way and you know, tell me how I've changed them and like this and that and like it's just really hard to see that without seeing, you know, I hope she dies, you know, like so it's like so it's really difficult...

...to figure it out. So I you know, I've only ever dropped one album for real and before that it was like a tiny E. P. When nobody even knew who I was. And you know, I remember when you were when you were on Trl on MTV, you know, and I was hosting and you came through and a lot of people were like still really excited about the singles that were out in the world, but you were on your first album run and people didn't understand like how I think how new you were to this entire world and you were still crushing all of it, you know? But now that's not the case now people know who Billie Eilish is now, you've played these shows, you've literally played concerts and festivals in a boot before. Like you've got a couple notches in the belt and it's just, it's really cool to see how you've, you've evolved in handling this. I totally get, it's a double edged sword to with reception on social media, you want to make sure people like it or at least what they have to say, you don't need some of the bs that's there either. Yeah, it's tough, but thanks man. Yeah, I I have had a really good career, so I I really can't complain. I mean, I just, I just,...

...it's hard to not get affected by what everybody says and things. It's so much easier said than done to be like, yeah, you know what your opinion doesn't matter to me, but it affects us. But hey, let's go off that real fast because creation right? Like I, I do a lot of spot directing and editing and producing, so it's really awesome to see what you did with N. D. A. And to know that you, you know, you've always had such an integral part. You and Phineas behind the scenes of the visuals of everything that you do, but to officially step into the director role and I think the biggest compliment you can have with anything whether it's stunt build like NBA or not is people assuming that it was fixed in post production and this is not the case with this video. So that's a huge compliment. That's a huge one, but I actually got the chance to talk to your brother a couple a couple months ago and you know, I was saying, hey man, when you're writing, when your songwriting, whether it's for you or billy, you know, how do you not get ahead of yourself with visuals with, you know, focusing on the song and then what it's gonna look like from the video standpoint or on stage. And he said, you know what, he doesn't not necessarily not get ahead of himself,...

...but you know, he has these little flashes or these visions. He did say it's your superpower though, that it's when you're writing and you kind of see what it's going to look like. So how do you handle when these visions are popping in your head when your songwriting? You know, it really doesn't distract. I think if anything it inspires me and makes me want to finish the song even more. Like it could, it just doesn't, you know, it could, it could make me go like, oh my God, I have this idea now, I don't know what to do with the song or you know, I feel over overtaken by this, but it really doesn't. It makes me go, oh my God, that's so cool, like, oh that makes me think of this idea, what if we did this because then it would match with this, but I would say honestly that my visual ideas have mostly come after with this process with this album, so I'll make a song and then just be focused on the actual song itself, and then after it's done usually is when...

I'll sit down and actually go, okay, what do I actually see with this? And let's revisit this? Yeah, that's when I that's when I come up with the most the most real ideas. I think the biggest ideas this episode of the Spot podcast is brought to you by better help this world that we're living in isn't easy, doesn't matter who you are. We're all dealing with our own level of depression or anxiety or stress or trauma, just trying to make it day by day and that's okay, but you shouldn't have to do that alone. That's where better help comes in right there, not a crisis line, This isn't self help, it's professional counselling done securely online, you can send a message off anytime to your licensed counselor and you're gonna get a timely and thoughtful response plus you can schedule weekly video or phone sessions whatever you prefer. Whatever is the easiest way for you to connect with someone. That's what better help is a sounding board licensed professional counselors who specialize in these things that we're dealing with day by day. Everything you share is confidential, it's convenient, it's...

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...animation, how does that work? Flow change, You know, rather than you've always thought of something as like a music video or a straight concert performance now that you're performing this live, then you're also adding the animation to it, what changed in the process for you? Well, to be honest with you, this one, you know, I started out with it being like, you know, I wanted to be really involved and directed and then I, I kind of, I was like, you know, for this one, I'm going to hand this over to robert and because it just, it felt I just trusted him with it. And it's also not my, I think, you know, animation is not my thing and like movies and, and you know, films and concert films are not my, I don't know what the hell I'm doing, you know, So I really just kind of watched and observed and learned originally everyone was like, well billy, we want you to direct this and we want, and I...

...was like, no, I'm like, I don't I don't really know what I'm doing here and I don't want to make a fool of myself with something that could potentially be really cool and just because of my pride and and you guys wanted me to have a director's credit, I'm not gonna, I don't need that, I want to have a beautiful piece that's made by somebody who's incredibly iconic, you know, so it's like, you know, sometimes you want to do stuff because you want to, I just feel like I want to do things that I feel very strongly about and want certain way and know how to do it, but there's some cases where I'm like, you know what, I trust this person more than I trust me and I think that it's going to be so beautiful with this person doing this, you know that makes sense. I mean, I'm kind of a control freak when it comes to editing and directing and I think the hardest thing I've ever had to do our projects where I went, you know what, I'm not the best guy in the room, I need to let someone else handle this so I can focus on what I'm good at dude. Me too. It's hard to admit that it's hard to do that. So it's super admirable to hear you say...

...that. Yeah, I think it's just, it's a thing that we should all be able to do is say, you know, I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't, I'm not, this isn't my thing, you know, even though I want to be, I want to do this because I want to be able to say that I'm capable of this, but I'm still learning and I, I want, you know, I want to just watch for a little longer, but I'm the same. Like I want everything to be very, very specific edited wise and like, you know, just shots and color and everything and I kind of for this one was like, you know what, it's okay? Am I handing it over to you? I trust you. Yeah, you know, making that, I mean that old saying that goes, you know, if you're the smartest person in the room, it's time to leave the room because the minute you stop learning in this industry or you think that you don't need to learn anymore, That's the minute you don't need to be in the industry anymore, in my opinion. Absolutely, absolutely. Billie Eilish man, thank you so much. We never got the chance to actually talk one on one, so this means a lot. I appreciate it. Of course, thank you so much for having...

...me on here. Hopefully we'll get a chance to talk a little more in length soon, but congratulations on everything and I can speak very confidently for the world when I say, we can't wait to see what you put together with happier than ever. And of course the little love letter to Los Angeles special as well. Well, thank you, that's so sweet. Thanks so much. It was great talking to you see more of our conversation with Billie Eilish. Its spout underscore podcast on I G and twitter or its spout podcast dot com next week. Lizzo spouts off, I want to expand my empire into other places, you know like fashion and anywhere there is a need for representation. I'll be there still to come this season Addison Rae walker Hayes, Dixie d'Amelio Nor mani and more be sure to listen to the spout podcast every thursday night on Apple podcasts, Spotify, google podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, the spout...

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